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by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:30 am

Minimum runs 1050 (that extra 50 leaves out Gatting, but allows Hammond a second chance, not against Bradman). Most of these players are from relatively recently.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:44 am

I've only got one English in my team so far. Border and Steve Waugh this time.

by **Gingerfinch** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:21 pm

Border and Chappell.

It was Border or S Waugh, to bat with the elegant Chappell. The team could do with a left hander, plus he'd be my captain.

by **Making_Splinters** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:59 pm

Barrington, if possible batting 4 and 5. Border a distant second.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:32 pm

You can vote for Kenny once above, at least Splinters.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:38 pm

Waugh and AB tick so many boxes. They were great players generally (so it limits the argument that they beat weakish England sides). They played for a long time scoring easily the most tons. They have very high averages. They were strong personalities. They scored tough runs. They emerged out of a weak period to help create a legacy for the team. The only thing I have against them is a lack of glamour.

Good argument for KP too, given the attacks he's faced. Greg Chappell was a great.

by **Making_Splinters** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:58 pm

Barrington is England's greatest post war middle order bat. For the Australians I'd have Chappell followed by Border then Waugh.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:08 pm

Fair enough. But as an Ashes player, three tons is a little thin, for all the excellent Ashes average. I routinely assume Barrington is England's best bat since WWII, given his record (give or take Amiss ;)).

Thorpey is arguably England's best bat since Barrington, but he never won the Ashes, and his record only ok to good v the Aussies. So I didn't mind leaving him off. He scored about 950 Ashes runs.

Vote is going to be tight.

I'm going to put a few of the best voted for runners up so far in the vote for number six, with some all rounders, so people can choose to have six batters.

by **Gingerfinch** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:34 am

Barrington and Chappell so far. The CMS top five now includes all players from pre-1980.

by **Aidan11** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:47 am

I'll have to come back to this and give it some thought. Not easy this one.

by **alfie** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:55 pm

Went Border and Barrington. Nearly G Chappell ...but I wanted a left hander.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:58 pm

Puts a tie back on. Maybe Aidan will break it, if still contemplating.

by **Aidan11** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:06 pm

Can't see past Border & Waugh which has opened a can of worms in the voting.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:59 pm

Two days left on this. Waugh is going to make it. Border a little vulnerable.

by **Arthur Crabtree** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:23 am

Two hours left, but it looks like the top five will be

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Bradman
Border
Waugh

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