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Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:13 pm
by Alviro Patterson
Shamelessly stolen by Cricinfo

Now that Yorkshire have retained the County Championship and a number of players going on to representing England, would the White Rose County with their strongest XI beat England in a test series?

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:15 pm
by Aidan11
I reckon they would.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:28 pm
by rich1uk
hmm trying to think of what an England team would look like without anyone from yorks atm

cook
hales
taylor
bell
stokes
ali
buttler
woakes
broad
finn
Anderson

that's a pretty decent team still

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:29 pm
by backfootpunch
rich1uk wrote:hmm trying to think of what an England team would look like without anyone from yorks atm

cook
hales
taylor
bell
stokes
ali
buttler
woakes
broad
finn
Anderson

that's a pretty decent team still


with no root england wouldnt make 150 so despite the stronger bowling england have i would back yorkshire

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:45 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
There's only Root who comes from Yorks who is a must pick for England. All the others arguably wouldn't be in England's best side. So it's got to be England.

Ironically, Yorks aren't a strong limited overs side, but have three players in the current team, and Root would be in if not being rested. That's more than in the Test team.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:55 pm
by rich1uk
Arthur Crabtree wrote:There's only Root who comes from Yorks who is a must pick for England. All the others arguably wouldn't be in England's best side. So it's got to be England.

Ironically, Yorks aren't a strong limited overs side, but have three players in the current team, and Root would be in if not being rested. That's more than in the Test team.


agreed

root is the only yorkie guaranteed his place based on form this year even tho there are 4 or 5 others that would be in the frame

Yorkshire are obviously strong but don't have the same quality 1 through 11 as that England team above do imo and sometimes its how strong your weakest players are that is a better indication of how good you are

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:10 am
by Alviro Patterson
Of course, the only way England could beat Yorkshire is if they select Yorkshire players for England duty. If Joe Root is with Team England, it's only fair Kane Williamson plays for Yorkshire :D

Lyth, Lees, Williamson, Ballance, Bairstow, Leaning, Rashid, Bresnan, Plunkett, Sidebottom, Brooks

Opening batsmen England are ahead
Middle to lower order batsmen it's dead level
Bowling attack - too close to call, both sides have unique pace bowlers but Yorkshire have the better spinner and are more likely to take 20 wickets.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:16 am
by rich1uk
Alviro Patterson wrote:Of course, the only way England could beat Yorkshire is if they select Yorkshire players for England duty. If Joe Root is with Team England, it's only fair Kane Williamson plays for Yorkshire :D

Lyth, Lees, Williamson, Ballance, Bairstow, Leaning, Rashid, Bresnan, Plunkett, Sidebottom, Brooks

Opening batsmen England are ahead
Middle to lower order batsmen it's dead level
Bowling attack - too close to call, both sides have unique pace bowlers but Yorkshire have the better spinner and are more likely to take 20 wickets.


I agree Yorkshire would have the better spinner but no way am I going to agree that pace attack is as good than the 4 I included in the potential England side above

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:31 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Can't believe you left Patterson out!

Maybe get Pujara in there.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:39 pm
by DiligentDefence
I think England's superior pace attack would tip the balance in their favour.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:17 pm
by Making_Splinters
I think there is a need to step back and appreciate the likes of Cook and Bell have been been fronting up to the best in the world, not the best in the LVCC. There is a huge gulf in class between Test cricket and the LVCC, just look at Lyth who went from scoring over 1600 runs in a season to looking hopeless at the top level. Bairstow has yet to make a serious case for being a first choice member of the Test side yet averaged close to 100 in the LVCC or Ballance who was recently dropped.

Easy to take too much away from Yorkshire's domestic performances.

Re: Would Yorkshire beat England in a test series?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:47 am
by Arthur Crabtree
As is sometimes said, a key to being a strong county side is having players who are just slightly below international standard.