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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:41 pm

I can retire in June (as I may have mentioned).
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I can retire in June (as I may have mentioned).


Will you do it, or will it have a financial impact on you?
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:31 pm

Can't make my mind up which means I'll probably carry on until the answer is more obvious. But I'm going to leave where I have worked for the last 17 years and take a couple of months off. Where I work now isn't a good place to grow old in terms of workload.

If wages were still at 2008 levels I'd be more likely carry on. But increasingly I feel like I work too hard for too little. I suppose that's true of most of us and I accept many people have worse pay and conditions than me. But I have a choice and that's how I feel.

Privatisation is coming unless we get a change in Government and that rules me out, so perhaps I should carry on while I can for a few more years. And I do value public service, but privatisation removes that motivation.

I feel burned out. Does everyone get to feel like that in their fifties?
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby andy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:35 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Oops! Did Andy change that after I read it and before I posted...

I can scarcely remember Albie Morkel. Feels like he was out the SA side 10 years ago. Sort of a new Lance Klusener/Justin Kemp.



Nope i didn't change, it you just mis-read lol
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:57 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
I feel burned out. Does everyone get to feel like that in their fifties?

not me, although I do get more tired, more often. I don't have to do a high stress job, in a high stress environment, under high stress conditions, though

consider how you feel and remember that we are all living longer and so have to work longer, then reflect what a pile of sh1t politicians spout and how often they spout it

Then further reflect that the Chinese, who live longer than we do on average, tackle this longevity problem by retiring people earlier rather than later
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:07 pm

That would be nice.

Sadly the state pension has been moved out of reach, beyond the age when most people will be looking to retire.

In some jobs it would be good to retire older workers to free up employment for younger people.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby andy » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Danielle Hazzell has retired from international cricket, very good t20 bowler! Was ranked one in the world at some stage! :salute
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby meninblue » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:58 am

Surprise immediate retirment by Johan Botha from all cricket effective Jan 23 2019. Was playing for Hobart Hurricanes this BBL. Cited wearer and tear and sheer physical fatigue as a reason.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby andy » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:29 pm

Ryan Mclaren has retired from red ball cricket
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby GarlicJam » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:53 pm

meninblue wrote:Surprise immediate retirment by Johan Botha from all cricket effective Jan 23 2019. Was playing for Hobart Hurricanes this BBL. Cited wearer and tear and sheer physical fatigue as a reason.

I think the Hurricanes have missed his cricketing smarts and experience straight away. A calm head in the field, at the crease, and with ball in hand.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:04 pm

GarlicJam wrote:
meninblue wrote:Surprise immediate retirment by Johan Botha from all cricket effective Jan 23 2019. Was playing for Hobart Hurricanes this BBL. Cited wearer and tear and sheer physical fatigue as a reason.

I think the Hurricanes have missed his cricketing smarts and experience straight away. A calm head in the field, at the crease, and with ball in hand.


I think personally you have to question his career. He was banned for chucking a few times, I think? I might stand corrected, but thats my memory...
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby GarlicJam » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:29 am

I remember very early on, I thought he was very suss, and he may have gotten a "correction order", then afterwards, he permanently wore long sleeves. I was highly suspicious. I thought that was his only trouble, but my memory is no better than yours.

This aside though, my point stands.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:53 am

I think he stopped playing internationals for that reason.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby sussexpob » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:47 pm

GarlicJam wrote:I remember very early on, I thought he was very suss, and he may have gotten a "correction order", then afterwards, he permanently wore long sleeves. I was highly suspicious. I thought that was his only trouble, but my memory is no better than yours.

This aside though, my point stands.


According to a quick search, he was cited on test debut in January 2006. Subsequent testing showed all his balls were illegal, and he actually took 11 months to pass the ICC remedial work, having failed multiple tests. He was then called in 2009, and his doosra found illegal, and he was banned permanently for using it. In 2013 he was called and banned for throwing in a one day game in Australia, but I cant find details about this/type of balls, just that he was punished and went through testing again. He was also reported, but not banned, in 2010. Apparently he was also banned in 2014 for ball tampering.

Obviously its entirely speculation, but I tend to think after so many citings, he was just bowling how he wanted and turned up and took the tests maybe. The whole system is a bit weird. Not really a punishment.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby sussexpob » Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:53 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think he stopped playing internationals for that reason.


Yes, undoubtably it must have something to do with the failed test around 2013, because he played his last internationals in late 2012, and there was no way with his economy rates in the shorter format that South Africa wouldnt have picked him,. He had an econ at a run a ball in T20 I think, which is very good. Under 5in ODIs. Have to think they would have played him.

I guess if we ignore that, then yes, he was a seriously underrated player in ODIs and T20s. To be that miserly is a very uncommon thing in the T20 era. Always found ways to tighten up the batsman, and to his credit, had no fear in taking the ball in the death overs. Always useful to have a miserly bowler who can slog a quickfire 20 with the bat too. So he was never a tear away wicket threat, but that skill matters little in limited overs if you are stopping runs.
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