Spot Fixing?

[Slipstream]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cric ... 00671.html

[meninblue]

I was surprised that Ashraful was involved in it because iirc he played in BPL last year and he was probably the top scorer. Usually they will take money for not scoring as it is easy to do that task of getting out than be top scorer. . Maybe he did spot fixing and recruiting others into it.

[rich1uk]

amir's ban lifted 8 months early , cleared to play in domestic cricket in Pakistan

not sure how I feel about this one , prepared to give him some benefit of the doubt given he was relatively young and may have been coerced by the more experienced players , but at end of the day he still cheated

[Aidan11]

It is difficult. The other question would be how others in the team would feel about him being in the side keeping out someone who has played the game with honesty.

[andy]

im glad he's back...done his time, and therefore i'd give him a 2nd chance...whether he can get back to the same standard, remains to be seen..

[rich1uk]

im glad he's back...done his time, and therefore i'd give him a 2nd chance...whether he can get back to the same standard, remains to be seen..

hes not done his time tho

its been cut short by 8 months

[andy]

he admitted he had been guilty, he done the time that was asked of him..is it his fault it was cut short no.....im happy to see him back

[rich1uk]

he admitted he had been guilty, he done the time that was asked of him..is it his fault it was cut short no.....im happy to see him back

and the ban he got was shorter to begin with because he admitted it , should it count twice ?

[andy]

i thought at the start they were too lenient Butt and Asif and too harsh on Amir who had clearly been corrupted by his 'captain' Butt.....im happy Amir is being given a 2nd chance

[Aidan11]

It appears not everyone is happy for him to return.

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/cricket ... 40414.html

[Albondiga]

I do not condone his actions in any way but can understand the temptation for a young man who is using his cricketing talents to free himself of poverty I have seen bowling of various types and abilities over a period of more than sixty years and apart from Warne and Murali I had not seen a bowler with more natural talent. I wonder if his talent is still there.

[meninblue]

I do not condone his actions in any way but can understand the temptation for a young man who is using his cricketing talents to free himself of poverty I have seen bowling of various types and abilities over a period of more than sixty years and apart from Warne and Murali I had not seen a bowler with more natural talent. I wonder if his talent is still there.

Possessing talent should not make the cricketers eligible to do illegal things. imo every cricketer has talent, but the difference is dedication, practice, temperament etc which separates talented from the games great. Amir has in his little career shown that he does not has the temperament to become a games great. His mind is cluttered and corrupt. it is proven. Does every cricketer be allowed to do ilegal things because they all are talented. Morever, should games greats be allowed to fix matches, because they have actually proven their talent more than the lesser successful players. Neither should poverty be an excuse. There are many who might be more poor than Amir, so should they be allowed to fix matches as well because they are more poor.

[Making_Splinters]

I do not condone his actions in any way but can understand the temptation for a young man who is using his cricketing talents to free himself of poverty I have seen bowling of various types and abilities over a period of more than sixty years and apart from Warne and Murali I had not seen a bowler with more natural talent. I wonder if his talent is still there.

Possessing talent should not make the cricketers eligible to do illegal things. imo every cricketer has talent, but the difference is dedication, practice, temperament etc which separates talented from the games great. Amir has in his little career shown that he does not has the temperament to become a games great. His mind is cluttered and corrupt. it is proven. Does every cricketer be allowed to do ilegal things because they all are talented. Morever, should games greats be allowed to fix matches, because they have actually proven their talent more than the lesser successful players. Neither should poverty be an excuse. There are many who might be more poor than Amir, so should they be allowed to fix matches as well because they are more poor.

Amir admitted his guilt and has served his time. I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed back into the game.

Butt and Asif on the other hand are a different kettle of fish.

[andy]

completely agree MS

[rich1uk]

I do not condone his actions in any way but can understand the temptation for a young man who is using his cricketing talents to free himself of poverty I have seen bowling of various types and abilities over a period of more than sixty years and apart from Warne and Murali I had not seen a bowler with more natural talent. I wonder if his talent is still there.

Possessing talent should not make the cricketers eligible to do illegal things. imo every cricketer has talent, but the difference is dedication, practice, temperament etc which separates talented from the games great. Amir has in his little career shown that he does not has the temperament to become a games great. His mind is cluttered and corrupt. it is proven. Does every cricketer be allowed to do ilegal things because they all are talented. Morever, should games greats be allowed to fix matches, because they have actually proven their talent more than the lesser successful players. Neither should poverty be an excuse. There are many who might be more poor than Amir, so should they be allowed to fix matches as well because they are more poor.

Amir admitted his guilt and has served his time. I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed back into the game.

Butt and Asif on the other hand are a different kettle of fish.

he hasn't served his time

the ban was meant to run until September