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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:57 am

Ajmal banned from international cricket.

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Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:38 am

Wow. Really is a shame as i enjoyed watching him but at the end of the day, rules are rules and he was clearly bowling illegally.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:42 am

So what were the last five years about? Is there an explanation for why he went so long untouched?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:46 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:So what were the last five years about? Is there an explanation for why he went so long untouched?

ICC recently changed the chucking rules which meant he and others (Senanayake, Williamson, Shillingford - possibly Utseya, Gazi) are now over the limit.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:47 am

From the 15 degrees?
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Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:48 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:From the 15 degrees?

I'm probably wrong but i think it used to be just bowling with an arm at 15 degrees but now it's all about the 15 degrees of flex/straightening.
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Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:50 am

Changing the rules to outlaw current players sounds like a legal nightmare. Not that Ajmal ever bowled within 15 degrees.

It was always about flex. I remember Dave Richardson talking about it.
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Postby rich1uk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:51 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:So what were the last five years about? Is there an explanation for why he went so long untouched?


probably no-one had the bottle to do anything about it
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Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:52 am

I'm not sure what the difference in the rules now is (if there is one). Maybe the ICC are just being more serious about chucking as they've now reported 6 or 7 in the last year.
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Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:52 am

The rules haven't changed just being applied correctly. The team that comes behind Worcestershire in the CC Div 2 will be miffed.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby rich1uk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:54 am

given the margins that he has been exceeding the 15 degree tolerance are so large then I refuse to believe he wasn't aware he was chucking tbh

and in my book that's just blatant cheating , knowing you are breaking the rules and doing it to gain an unfair advantage
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby ddb » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:01 am

Srini moves to the top of ICC. Lots of players get banned for chucking.

India to play Pakistan next year without Ajmal, India have a better chance of winning.

Makes sense to all conspiracists lol.

But seriously, it's odd that they've suddenly cracked down, a bit late if anything and also a bit of a shame.
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Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:03 am

Ashwin and Narine will be next. And we'll be left with no mystery spinners at all...
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby ddb » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:05 am

dan08 wrote:Ashwin and Narine will be next. And we'll be left with no mystery spinners at all...

Ashwin doesn't chuck at all. He's becoming the best spinner in the world off this.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:05 am

Sky did a piece on chucking and the 15 degree limit is so small. Hardly any leeway for bowlers. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot more spinners are reported.
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