The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[ddb]

Two things i didn't know. Broad was living with the man who started the fake KP twitter account. Broad joined an hour later.

The ECB sacked the person who put KP up for press duties after the Headingley Test.

Both these I've seen below the line on news stories. Anyone know if these are true? The second feels so believable that it should be true.

First one is that, Broad posted a picture with the man who started the account 1 hour after he had started it, putting him in maybe the same place.

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

[ddb]

I am quite devastatingly pissed at all those who are drawing such strong generalisations about KP's personality.

But its alright for you to draw generalisations about those that work in the ECB and label them as untrustworthy, incompetant, even though you dont know them. Interesting, point of view.....

But the ECB are the only ones to leak private meetings in all this, AFAIK.

[shankycricket]

I odnt understand why the ECB is seen as the 'bad guy' here, they've been consistent in thier message and it is KP that has had to back down and agree that they were in the right.

could the ECB have handled it differently, probably not, especially with the KP media machine (inc Piers 'I hacked Phones' Morgan) behind him, and people who think the sun shine out of his arse defending him against the big bad ECB. Yet the ECB have to some extent pandered to his whims over the years, but the tide has changed and they are nolonger willing to put up with these tantrums that he throws.

And this situation is very similar to what happened with Moores, a public spat, KP threatening to resign unless the ECB did something, Moores insisting KP be removed as captain, the ECB sacking Moores, and then sacking KP as captain for the campaign against the coach.

In the end it was KP that announced his retirement then u-turned in a big way in a video, KP has to take responsibility for his actions and his retirement and texting of dergogatory or banter (depending on who you believe) messages to the opposition giving them the ammunition to undermined his team mates, and all that Strauss and Flower built.

It is KP that is the loser, and I couldnt care less if he ever pulls on an england shirt ever again, as no single person is bigger than the team, and no person is 100% secure. Players come and go for teams but the team lives on, and i will support England and the XI men that step onto the field of play regardless of who is or isnt in there, Win, Lose or Draw.

I also dont buy into the KP fan base that state people wont turn up to watch games if KP is not playing, there may be a few but does cricket really need these 'fly-by-night' fans, that would turn thier back as soon as england start losing?

Lost for words. This is the ECB that doesnt punish Swann for publically passing derogatory comments regarding a teammate. This is the same ECB that doesnt punish Stuart Broad that contained swear words but punishes KP for the "Knightgate". This is the same ECB that allowed Strauss to quit one of the shorter formats but changed the rules when they came know to about KP's possible retirement. This is the same ECB who leaked the details of a private meeting but are reportedly annoyed with KP's you tube video.
So consistent.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

It was one of the comments below the Guardian editorial.

[mikesiva]

Two things i didn't know. Broad was living with the man who started the fake KP twitter account. Broad joined an hour later.

The ECB sacked the person who put KP up for press duties after the Headingley Test.

Both these I've seen below the line on news stories. Anyone know if these are true? The second feels so believable that it should be true.

First one is that, Broad posted a picture with the man who started the account 1 hour after he had started it, putting him in maybe the same place.

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

Hmmm....I wonder if Broad will be disciplined for this. Surely, he should be dropped from the third Test too, if the ECB are consistent....

[Gingerfinch]

Two things i didn't know. Broad was living with the man who started the fake KP twitter account. Broad joined an hour later.

The ECB sacked the person who put KP up for press duties after the Headingley Test.

Both these I've seen below the line on news stories. Anyone know if these are true? The second feels so believable that it should be true.

First one is that, Broad posted a picture with the man who started the account 1 hour after he had started it, putting him in maybe the same place.

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

Hmmm....I wonder if Broad will be disciplined for this. Surely, he should be dropped from the third Test too, if the ECB are consistent....

He may be disciplined if true. In fact he should be.

[shankycricket]

Two things i didn't know. Broad was living with the man who started the fake KP twitter account. Broad joined an hour later.

The ECB sacked the person who put KP up for press duties after the Headingley Test.

Both these I've seen below the line on news stories. Anyone know if these are true? The second feels so believable that it should be true.

First one is that, Broad posted a picture with the man who started the account 1 hour after he had started it, putting him in maybe the same place.

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

Hmmm....I wonder if Broad will be disciplined for this. Surely, he should be dropped from the third Test too, if the ECB are consistent....

Yeah they seem to take drop players based on media allegations.

[Aidan11]

The unfortunate thing about this whole text saga is that the NOTW is no longer in operation.

They would have hacked into them and published them in full so that we'd know exactly what was said.

[hopeforthebest]

This conspiracy could end up as a plot for a great Bollywood film with KP in the lead role singing and dacing.

[ddb]

Two things i didn't know. Broad was living with the man who started the fake KP twitter account. Broad joined an hour later.

The ECB sacked the person who put KP up for press duties after the Headingley Test.

Both these I've seen below the line on news stories. Anyone know if these are true? The second feels so believable that it should be true.

First one is that, Broad posted a picture with the man who started the account 1 hour after he had started it, putting him in maybe the same place.

Second haven't heard that, where's it from?

Hmmm....I wonder if Broad will be disciplined for this. Surely, he should be dropped from the third Test too, if the ECB are consistent....

Disciplined for living with a guy, not sure, can't ever prove if he was involved really.

It's all a charade.

[ddb]

Yeah they seem to take drop players based on media allegations.

Come on, it's pretty obvious by now he sent texts. Can't necessarily blame the paper for bringing into the picture(or nicking it off a journos blog) as they want attention. Can blame them for not being fair and objective. But there's pretty obvious reasons for that.

This conspiracy could end up as a plot for a great Bollywood film with KP in the lead role singing and dacing.

Maybe that's what KP was talking about with the Delhi Daredevils.

[Kim]

Someone ask why Botham hasnt critisied KP, well I beleive its Bothams Agency (Mission Sports) that represents KP so hes hardly going to put him down as he could lose a source of income.

It is Mission sports but I don't believe Botham owns it, in fact Pietersen is a shareholder and director and Ian Bell one of it's clients.

Botham was bought out By KP who now owns it

[hopeforthebest]

Yeah they seem to take drop players based on media allegations.

Come on, it's pretty obvious by now he sent texts. Can't necessarily blame the paper for bringing into the picture(or nicking it off a journos blog) as they want attention. Can blame them for not being fair and objective. But there's pretty obvious reasons for that.

This conspiracy could end up as a plot for a great Bollywood film with KP in the lead role singing and dacing.

Maybe that's what KP was talking about with the Delhi Daredevils.

That's awesome but I was waiting for the KP solo.

[shankycricket]

Yeah they seem to take drop players based on media allegations.

Come on, it's pretty obvious by now he sent texts. Can't necessarily blame the paper for bringing into the picture(or nicking it off a journos blog) as they want attention. Can blame them for not being fair and objective. But there's pretty obvious reasons for that.

But it was just an "allegation" when he was dropped though. For a team so obsessed with "principles", they forgot the principle of "innocent until proven guilty".

[ddb]

It probably wasn't, not sure why you clutch on that straw.

@JacksonTC: KP admits to text being sent were "provocative" and has apologised. ECB say more talks are needed for situation to be resolved

Also apparently said discussions shouldn't be the media spotlight...not sure the leak at the ECB agrees.