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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby D/L » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:39 pm

That’s overplaying one thing and downplaying another, I think.

The essential difference is that sportsmen need controversy to sell their books and most controversial passages are cleared with anyone who may have been upset by them. Heck, they may even get some of the proceeds of the sale, if it’s controversial enough. The agents will work it out between them. It’s all part of the game.

Pietersen, however, just behaved like a prat and probably caused genuine offence.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby #Brown » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:41 pm

As has been said numerous times, it's all about context.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby shankycricket » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:42 pm

Red Devil wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:For everyone going on about Swanns book, you do realise that before it was published it would of been proof-read by the ECB.


In that case, they allowing criticism of one active player by another active team member seems to go against the ethos of sanctity of dressing room etc which KP has apperently broken...


Swanns book wasnt written mid-match and only for the opposition to read.


So - having a go at someone for the whole world to read (for a profit) is better then having a private moan to a couple of friends (even if they are playing for the opposition at the time)? :hmmm

Well said! Strauss and Flower would not have even come to know about it had it not been for the Mail report.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:11 pm

the icc have extended the deadline for t20 squads by six days, gives them a few extra days to potentially sort things out
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Kim » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:15 pm

shankybiggestengfan wrote:
Red Devil wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:For everyone going on about Swanns book, you do realise that before it was published it would of been proof-read by the ECB.


In that case, they allowing criticism of one active player by another active team member seems to go against the ethos of sanctity of dressing room etc which KP has apperently broken...


Swanns book wasnt written mid-match and only for the opposition to read.


So - having a go at someone for the whole world to read (for a profit) is better then having a private moan to a couple of friends (even if they are playing for the opposition at the time)? :hmmm

Well said! Strauss and Flower would not have even come to know about it had it not been for the Mail report.


You surely cant really believe that.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Red Devil wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:For everyone going on about Swanns book, you do realise that before it was published it would of been proof-read by the ECB.


In that case, they allowing criticism of one active player by another active team member seems to go against the ethos of sanctity of dressing room etc which KP has apperently broken...


Swanns book wasnt written mid-match and only for the opposition to read.


So - having a go at someone for the whole world to read (for a profit) is better then having a private moan to a couple of friends (even if they are playing for the opposition at the time)? :hmmm


Certainly ( not that I agree with Swann writing a book ( dont agree with anyone writing books before they retire ) ). But atleast Swann said what he had to say publically and KPs captaincy has ended, no one was affected. KP shouldnt be sending private messages to SA players mid-series.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Dilbert » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:43 pm

D/L wrote:My final response, as this is a bit tiresome - defending it can also include trying to make light of it, with the repeated mentions that the South African camp had, wrongly, played down the content of the texts and the implication that others had behaved as badly as Pietersen. That is clearly nonsense.


Really? Thats your arguement?
Did you not see the SA camp issuing statements saying it was banter, downplaying the whole thing?

I would be pissed off if I think one of my teammates is involved in a parody twitter account making fun of me. Its nothing to be brushed off.

But anyway, we are clearly going in circles, a great test match has started, without KP, and things have moved on. You know my stand, I know yours, we disagree completely on whats right and whats wrong, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
No point discussing this further, we are not going to go anywhere.

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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby meninblue » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:27 pm

Two wrongs don't make one right :no I don't see any justification that what KP did was correct because Swann had done it couple of years back.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:45 pm

Interesting news, the deadline for the World T20 squad is no longer Saturday, it's been extended to a week tomorrow.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/world-twenty20-deadline-extended-aussies-name-squad-064624780.html
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby D/L » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:46 pm

shankybiggestengfan wrote:Well said! Strauss and Flower would not have even come to know about it had it not been for the Mail report.

So, presumably, Pietersen’s only offence was getting caught? :facepalm

It didn’t really matter who the South African camp leaked it to. It would have come out anyway.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby m@tt » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:07 pm

"@VaughanCricket Yorkshire fancy signing KP on loan for Finals day? Make sure theres a big crowd.I dont play T20 in front of less than 20,000"

"Sorry KP's not been tweeting today. Had to get my head down because the other batsman can't do their job. Plus I'm batting with a child."

"Note to ex-pros. Make sure you're better than KP before you have a pop. Which means unless you're Don Bradman, keep your mouth shut."

"It doesn't take that woman from "Murder she wrote" to work out that this isn't a team mate of KP. I've been tweeting during Tests!"

"KP is insulted people think this is Graeme Swann. Anyway, he's too busy in the nets trying to remember how to bowl"

"KP will only do an interview if I can interview the interviewer first to see if they are qualified to interview genius."

"Experience how it feels to bat like KP by having a 5 year old bowl under arm at you with a tennis ball on concrete."

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A selection of tweets I managed to find. Whilst I only read a handful whilst the account was open, I can't remember seeing anything to do with the dressing room, it's just playing to KP's arrogance.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby yorker_129-7 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:47 pm

You missed the best one...

"Anyone who says Test cricket is the best form of the game needs to watch KP slapping Indian medium pacers around at 141% strike rate"
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby shankycricket » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:58 pm

m@tt and yorker,

Are you guys there on Twitter? Links to your accounts, please? :)
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Dilbert » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:52 am

sportbloggeradi wrote:Two wrongs don't make one right :no I don't see any justification that what KP did was correct because Swann had done it couple of years back.


Who is saying what KP did was correct?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby meninblue » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:52 am

Dilbert wrote:
sportbloggeradi wrote:Two wrongs don't make one right :no I don't see any justification that what KP did was correct because Swann had done it couple of years back.


Who is saying what KP did was correct?


I have seen some tweets , some posts and some comments which indicate that people expect KP not to be punished because Swann did it. That's why i posted it.
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