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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby rich1uk » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:43 pm

i'm happy to see anyone who is bowling with a dodgy action getting checked , I do worry a little atm about why it has happened all of a sudden as they haven't all just started chucking in the last few months

if I was a conspiracy theorist I would wonder whether the recent "coup" within the ICC led to this especially given, someone will correct me if I am wrong, that no-one from England, Australia or india have fallen prey to the witch-hunt
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby meninblue » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:51 pm

rich1uk wrote:i'm happy to see anyone who is bowling with a dodgy action getting checked , I do worry a little atm about why it has happened all of a sudden as they haven't all just started chucking in the last few months

if I was a conspiracy theorist I would wonder whether the recent "coup" within the ICC led to this especially given, someone will correct me if I am wrong, that no-one from England, Australia or india have fallen prey to the witch-hunt


Swann was the offie with a very clean action. Tredwell too has a very clean bowling action. Monty too. Not surprising that many English bowlers never attempted or used doosra as much as some other bowlers and hence got relatively less success because they never bowled with a suspect action.

Lyon too is very safe as far as chucking is concerned.

Ashwin too has a clean action. Harby can be a candidate for suspect action but he is unlikely to feature for international team now.

Banning chuckers should have been done earlier as many bowlers visibly chucked and there was no need to come to such a conclusion after allowing them to chuck in many games. Better late than never. imo Afridi chucks and he will be reported soon and Akila Dhananjaya might also be reported if he does not corrects some of his deliveries.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby rich1uk » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:59 pm

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rich1uk wrote:i'm happy to see anyone who is bowling with a dodgy action getting checked , I do worry a little atm about why it has happened all of a sudden as they haven't all just started chucking in the last few months

if I was a conspiracy theorist I would wonder whether the recent "coup" within the ICC led to this especially given, someone will correct me if I am wrong, that no-one from England, Australia or india have fallen prey to the witch-hunt


Swann was the offie with a very clean action. Tredwell too has a very clean bowling action. Monty too. Not surprising that many English bowlers never attempted or used doosra as much as some other bowlers and hence got relatively less success because they never bowled with a suspect action.

Lyon too is very safe as far as chucking is concerned.

Ashwin too has a clean action. Harby can be a candidate for suspect action but he is unlikely to feature for international team now.

Banning chuckers should have been done earlier as many bowlers visibly chucked and there was no need to come to such a conclusion after allowing them to chuck in many games. Better late than never. imo Afridi chucks and he will be reported soon and Akila Dhananjaya might also be reported if he does not corrects some of his deliveries.


that's kinda what I was getting at adi , this crackdown has come shortly after the changes within the ICC which basically mean the "big three" can do what they want , and none of the big three have any bowlers in and around their national teams , specialist bowlers any way, that are likely to be affected
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby sussexpob » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:01 pm

Afridi's quicker ball he bowls maybe a little suspect
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:23 pm

South African bowler who took wickets in his debut v Zimbabwe, perhaps.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby meninblue » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:34 pm

rich1uk wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:
rich1uk wrote:i'm happy to see anyone who is bowling with a dodgy action getting checked , I do worry a little atm about why it has happened all of a sudden as they haven't all just started chucking in the last few months

if I was a conspiracy theorist I would wonder whether the recent "coup" within the ICC led to this especially given, someone will correct me if I am wrong, that no-one from England, Australia or india have fallen prey to the witch-hunt


Swann was the offie with a very clean action. Tredwell too has a very clean bowling action. Monty too. Not surprising that many English bowlers never attempted or used doosra as much as some other bowlers and hence got relatively less success because they never bowled with a suspect action.

Lyon too is very safe as far as chucking is concerned.

Ashwin too has a clean action. Harby can be a candidate for suspect action but he is unlikely to feature for international team now.

Banning chuckers should have been done earlier as many bowlers visibly chucked and there was no need to come to such a conclusion after allowing them to chuck in many games. Better late than never. imo Afridi chucks and he will be reported soon and Akila Dhananjaya might also be reported if he does not corrects some of his deliveries.


that's kinda what I was getting at adi , this crackdown has come shortly after the changes within the ICC which basically mean the "big three" can do what they want , and none of the big three have any bowlers in and around their national teams , specialist bowlers any way, that are likely to be affected


Yes, there is no doubt that India, England and Australia have the power to dictate terms as far as cricketing systems are concerned. We will have to wait and see if these 3 teams select any chuckers and they bowl in few matches without getting a warning or a ban. We can only hope that these 3 boards apply the same judgment for every bowler irrespective of which team he represents.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:04 pm

Seem to get the impression James Tredwell has an unorthodox bowling action
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Postby mikesiva » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:03 pm

"Kolkata Knight Riders' Sunil Narine cannot bowl in the Champions League T20 final on Saturday, after he was reported for a second time in two matches for a suspect action. He was reported by the umpires after the semi-final against Hobart Hurricanes on Thursday, which Knight Riders had won by seven wickets. Earlier, he had been reported following their final group match, against Dolphins."

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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:03 pm

An Indian has been reported! It's part timer Suryakumar Yadav.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby yuppie » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:43 pm

So both Gazi and Utseya have been banned

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/29543531

Does this cloud Zims win over Australia a little? Utseya was reported before this but bowled in the game? Would be interested to hear peoples take, and will this all be less of an issue in the future as people with suspect actions wont be making it through to international level?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:03 pm

It's a really hard judgement to make, whether you should bowl while waiting for testing. Maybe as a judgement has been made by the match ref that the action is questionable, really it's up to the player to prove otherwise before he bowls again.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:22 pm

It's a tough call, in an ideal world a bowler should be suspended from the original call till testing has been done. However, you can imagine the stink if a key bowler was reported, a series was lost, only for the testing to come back negative.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby yuppie » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:29 pm

I also wonder if this is the price to be paid for the next few years, but this clampdown on suspect actions should lead to more clean bowlers, which in turn will mean that this situation will be less likely. I personally dont think they should bowl if reported, but if the action is given the all clear, then, yeah thats not great.

But it does make you wonder if this came up at a world cup match what would happen. As it stands at present though, the ICC has probably reported everyone with a suspect action. So hopefully it wont come up at the world up.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:49 pm

Is it a coincidence that just a few months before bowlers started getting reported that the ICC sanctioned more testing labs around the world, or part of a prepared plan?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:08 pm

This is apparently a video of Ajmal's new action: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=329712553901223
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