The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[Gingerfinch]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

[Kim]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

He didnt enjoy playing under him and fel his captaincy was overrted because in 2005 he was captaining a good side.

He should be shot.

[greyblazer]

To criticize a current teammate in open is bad.Swann also called Smait a mediocre fat spinner. I wonder if all those comments about Samit made by various members of the team come out in open how many of them will still be available for selection

[Kim]

As always, there is this pedantry when it comes to KP. KP haters trying to find minor differences between the two cases and making it out that one is acceptable but not the other. The same old story!

The pedantry is labellng anyone who doesnt agree with your view of KP as a Kp hater.

[Kim]

To criticize a current teammate in open is bad.Swann also called Smait a mediocre fat spinner. I wonder if all those comments about Samit made by various members of the team come out in open how many of them will still be available for selection

Well, TBF................

[Gingerfinch]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

He didnt enjoy playing under him and fel his captaincy was overrted because in 2005 he was captaining a good side.

He should be shot.

He he.........off with his head!

Apples and Oranges come to mind.

[sussexpob]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

[hopeforthebest]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

Just tune into Tuffers and Vaughan tonight and find out.

[greyblazer]

If someone can fine KP for saying how did Knight ever work his way into a commentary box then others too should be fined.Mind you in neither of the cases a player should be fined but if one player is fined then the other guy too should be.

[Gingerfinch]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

Not his CURRENT captain though!

[Arthur Crabtree]

Is it in the contracts of England players that they are not allowed to say anything about the commentators? Find that quite surprising. And a bit intrusive.

[greyblazer]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

Not his CURRENT captain though!

And last I checked Knight retired from internationals in 02/03.

[Gingerfinch]

SORRY

Are we talking about KP's comment about Knight?

If so, then I agree that both 'crimes' should be treated the same.

[Gingerfinch]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

Not his CURRENT captain though!

And last I checked Knight retired from internationals in 02/03.

Sorry sussex, I thought we were comparing KP's comments about Strauss to Jimmy's and Vaughan's.

My mistake

[Kim]

What did Jimmy say about Vaughan?

Jimmy basically infered that Vaughan was not a people's person and that he thought he had no time for him and didnt rate him, and that he didnt treat him as an individual and hints that he lacked the skills to treat people as individuals. He also basically says that Vaughan's achievements came down to having a team of legends and not captaincy.

Im pretty sure the person who these comments were aimed at would feel hurt and insulted by them.

And the relevance of that would be?