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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:36 pm
by Red Devil
Arthur Crabtree wrote:£70 at Trent Bridge.

The loss of the weekend as the core of the match complicates pricing.

Ticket prices hugely effects the crowd. £70 wipes out a huge amount of the potential audience.

I think there was a swell of feelgood support centred around the Fletcher years, and the re-emergence of an exciting, winning team that struck off decades of bad results, home and away. And that period wore the ticket prices fairly lightly and built up support through C4 coverage. But the last four years of attritional cricket, the eight years loss of the game to Sky and the current bad feeling surrounding the post Ashes period has soured the mood. Sending us back to the crowds we see on VHS when English cricket was a joke.

Recovery will be difficult. There was always potential for the game to reconnect with the public when it was on terrestrial tv. Less certain now. Participation in supporting the England team live over the past few years has felt a bit like subscribing to watching it on tv. You join it at a point where it just about feels affordable, but each year it grows in expense, and each year that loyalty is stretched further. In an economic slump, more people will have to say no.


very true - the ticket prices are a major problem. I'm taking my other half, my parents and 5 kids to the women'd test match and it'll cost £50 for the day with free parking and lots of kids activities thrown in.

for a mens test match it would cost more than that per ticket and there's nothing much for the kids - and I'm not going to fork out about £700 to take the family to a day at the test!

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:46 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
It is possible to work around it to some extent. last day prices are less. Though these may fall on a school/work day. But they will be walk up tickets.

These tickets are becoming part of the squeeze though and are starting to cost more.

It sounds like the newer grounds and the northern ground charge less. And it should be recognised that junior tickets are much cheaper everywhere. But still it is prohibitive if paying for dependents. Probably the grounds are happier to cater for groups of men who are likely to spend a lot of money in the ground. And that sort of atmosphere creates an environment unappealing to a family group.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:34 pm
by Alviro Patterson
sussexpob wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
D/L wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Biggest Indian communities in the UK......

Birmigham
Sandwell (part of Birmingham essentially)
Wolverhampton
Leicester (what, about 30 miles from Birmingham).....

No test at Edgbaston? Who made that decision

Leeds and Bradford must be well up there too.


I think, and I can be corrected, that the Asian populations that make up the Leeds-Bradford area is vastly more Pakistani in origin. Something like 25% in Bradford, with only say 1-2% Indian.


That was what Headingley were banking on for their neutral test series with Australia a couple of years back but it failed spectacularly.


A lot of money for a ticket in a recession, especially when Bradford area is supposed to have a really bad employment ratio.


The Pakistani community were never going to turn up to a test match in numbers, regardless of ticketing pricing. Limited overs cricket is the greater attraction, i.e. Shahid Afridi.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:22 pm
by KipperJohn
Even after retirement it took me years to finally decide to go to a Test. Whilst cost was a factor it's also very much the thought that you'll travel quite a long way, only to find that some, or all of the day is lost because of the weather. I've always planned my life in advance, rarely going to an event on the spur of the moment. You book, pay out, arrange travel etc , then wonder if it's going to be worth it. Fortunately, my visit to the Ageas Bowl was nigh perfect, especially the cricket.

I still plan to take the Lord's tour - that seems well worth the travel etc., but actually going to a day's cricket is probably a bit prohibitive.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:23 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Most venues should be able to attract a crowd from the host city though. The grounds aren't big. My guess is that the price is the biggest factor in stopping that from happening. As time goes on, the Sky monopoly will bite.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:16 pm
by Albondiga
KipperJohn wrote:Even after retirement it took me years to finally decide to go to a Test. Whilst cost was a factor it's also very much the thought that you'll travel quite a long way, only to find that some, or all of the day is lost because of the weather. I've always planned my life in advance, rarely going to an event on the spur of the moment. You book, pay out, arrange travel etc , then wonder if it's going to be worth it. Fortunately, my visit to the Ageas Bowl was nigh perfect, especially the cricket.

I still plan to take the Lord's tour - that seems well worth the travel etc., but actually going to a day's cricket is probably a bit prohibitive.



The Lords tour is a must for cricket lovers.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:26 am
by Alviro Patterson
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Most venues should be able to attract a crowd from the host city though. The grounds aren't big. My guess is that the price is the biggest factor in stopping that from happening. As time goes on, the Sky monopoly will bite.


Precise reason why a team-mate from cricket isn't going to the India ODI, £65 to go in the Western Terrace is a joke. Four years ago it was £35 to watch the Pakistan ODI.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:25 am
by sussexpob
Albondiga wrote:
KipperJohn wrote:Even after retirement it took me years to finally decide to go to a Test. Whilst cost was a factor it's also very much the thought that you'll travel quite a long way, only to find that some, or all of the day is lost because of the weather. I've always planned my life in advance, rarely going to an event on the spur of the moment. You book, pay out, arrange travel etc , then wonder if it's going to be worth it. Fortunately, my visit to the Ageas Bowl was nigh perfect, especially the cricket.

I still plan to take the Lord's tour - that seems well worth the travel etc., but actually going to a day's cricket is probably a bit prohibitive.



The Lords tour is a must for cricket lovers.


Lords is a horrible place to watch cricket. You spend all day being judged by someone who looks like the English Upper Class equivalent of Ronald MacDonald, who knows nothing about cricket but thinks he owns the place because of his MCC membership he bought.

The "home of cricket thing" wears off by 11:30am, by which time Ronald MacDonald has already loudly told his mate about his new stock broking venture, and how its the normal bloke two rows in front quietly sipping a beer on his own that is "whats wrong with the test matches now".

God forbid you get in a queue for food or drink in front of him.... don't you know he is a member?

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:55 pm
by D/L
sussexpob wrote:
Albondiga wrote:
KipperJohn wrote:Even after retirement it took me years to finally decide to go to a Test. Whilst cost was a factor it's also very much the thought that you'll travel quite a long way, only to find that some, or all of the day is lost because of the weather. I've always planned my life in advance, rarely going to an event on the spur of the moment. You book, pay out, arrange travel etc , then wonder if it's going to be worth it. Fortunately, my visit to the Ageas Bowl was nigh perfect, especially the cricket.

I still plan to take the Lord's tour - that seems well worth the travel etc., but actually going to a day's cricket is probably a bit prohibitive.

The Lords tour is a must for cricket lovers.

Lords is a horrible place to watch cricket. You spend all day being judged by someone who looks like the English Upper Class equivalent of Ronald MacDonald, who knows nothing about cricket but thinks he owns the place because of his MCC membership he bought.

The "home of cricket thing" wears off by 11:30am, by which time Ronald MacDonald has already loudly told his mate about his new stock broking venture, and how its the normal bloke two rows in front quietly sipping a beer on his own that is "whats wrong with the test matches now".

God forbid you get in a queue for food or drink in front of him.... don't you know he is a member?

:lmao
The media centre is a monstrosity too. I heard someone once say it had been inspired by Cherie Blair's mouth.

A tour of Headingley, with memorabilia of two great sports to be seen, is much better and probably a damned sight cheaper.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:45 pm
by pompeymeowth
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I thought of Steve Bell as soon as I read that!

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:11 pm
by sussexpob
D/L wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Albondiga wrote:
KipperJohn wrote:Even after retirement it took me years to finally decide to go to a Test. Whilst cost was a factor it's also very much the thought that you'll travel quite a long way, only to find that some, or all of the day is lost because of the weather. I've always planned my life in advance, rarely going to an event on the spur of the moment. You book, pay out, arrange travel etc , then wonder if it's going to be worth it. Fortunately, my visit to the Ageas Bowl was nigh perfect, especially the cricket.

I still plan to take the Lord's tour - that seems well worth the travel etc., but actually going to a day's cricket is probably a bit prohibitive.

The Lords tour is a must for cricket lovers.

Lords is a horrible place to watch cricket. You spend all day being judged by someone who looks like the English Upper Class equivalent of Ronald MacDonald, who knows nothing about cricket but thinks he owns the place because of his MCC membership he bought.

The "home of cricket thing" wears off by 11:30am, by which time Ronald MacDonald has already loudly told his mate about his new stock broking venture, and how its the normal bloke two rows in front quietly sipping a beer on his own that is "whats wrong with the test matches now".

God forbid you get in a queue for food or drink in front of him.... don't you know he is a member?

:lmao
The media centre is a monstrosity too. I heard someone once say it had been inspired by Cherie Blair's mouth.

A tour of Headingley, with memorabilia of two great sports to be seen, is much better and probably a damned sight cheaper.


The Oval is better than Lords for the Southern grounds. I prefer Edgbaston or Trent Bridge, never been to Headingley

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:32 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Lord's wasn't as great an experience as I thought it was going to be, but it's still a more enjoyable ground than most in England. Trent Bridge and Lord's are the only traditional Test grounds that have much feeling of imagination about them. Headingley and Edgbaston are comfortable but bland. Old Trafford was an outhouse. Presumably better since it was done out. Not been to The Oval.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:50 am
by Aidan11
Not been to the new Headingley but from TV pictures it looks to have more of a stadium look than a cricket ground.

Makes me want to put the Botham's Ashes DVD back on again.

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:56 am
by Gingerfinch
Aidan11 wrote:Not been to the new Headingley but from TV pictures it looks to have more of a stadium look than a cricket ground.

Makes me want to put the Botham's Ashes DVD back on again.


Pity nobody turns up :-)

Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:41 pm
by D/L
Dr Robert wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Not been to the new Headingley but from TV pictures it looks to have more of a stadium look than a cricket ground.

Makes me want to put the Botham's Ashes DVD back on again.

Pity nobody turns up :-)

Probably a more discerning crowd, less easily pleased than many who pack Lord's and the Oval.

Of course, having to shell out the best part of a quid an over may have something to do with it.