The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 12, 2015 9:06 pm

If what KP says here is true, it's difficult to trust anything anyone says in the ECB

"I expressed my fear to Tom last week when he asked for the meeting that I did not want to sit in a room and be told that I was not going to be picked for England again," added Pietersen.
"Tom said: 'No, no, no you have had one of England's greatest careers and we need to work together.' So, of course, I agreed to the meeting."
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 12, 2015 9:11 pm

greyblazer wrote:I repeat what I said on Twitter. Even if someone hates KP, you have to feel sorry for him after reading his column.

Nope, couldn't give a monkeys, reap what you sow.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 12, 2015 9:12 pm

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Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



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I hoped it wouldn't come to supporting Braddin, Wee Davie and Mitch1.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby m@tt » Tue May 12, 2015 9:13 pm

I said last night that Strauss better have a good reason. He didn't. Vague stuff about trust between KP and the ECB.

I don't care about all his talk about organisations. This is a professional sports team. Petersen wants to score centuries and help win for England. How does that not align with the team?

He had chosen to put personal differences ahead of cricket and ahead of the fans.

To top it off, he says Moores had to go because there were questions before each game about whether he would stay. More questions were asked of Cook than or Moores. No mention of that. And he had kept Morgan who had scored very little for too long.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 12, 2015 9:16 pm

My guess is that Cook, Anderson and Broad said they'd retire rather than play with him. Better we know though, so we can judge people fairly. The possibility that Cook refused to play with him is getting a few mentions, and is quite believable.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 12, 2015 9:18 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:My guess is that Cook, Anderson and Broad said they'd retire rather than play with him. Better we know though, so we can judge people fairly. The possibility that Cook refused to play with him is getting a few mentions, and is quite believable.



All the more reason to pick KP I say. :hide
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 12, 2015 9:18 pm

He couldn't get his side of the story down fast enough, almost as if he'd had it all planned out before he met Strauss.

Can't think that this is going to harm him financially, he might have given up his IPL contract, but I'm sure they'll be some nice little earners out of everything that's happened. Enough to keep him from having to remortgage his pad in Chelsea.

I don't think Pietersen really gives a damn about playing for England again, its all about image, publicity and his great big ego.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 12, 2015 9:19 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



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I can no longer support this abhorrent regime


I hoped it wouldn't come to supporting Braddin, Wee Davie and Mitch1.

For heavens sake!
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Making_Splinters » Tue May 12, 2015 9:32 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



X 2

I can no longer support this abhorrent regime


I hoped it wouldn't come to supporting Braddin, Wee Davie and Mitch1.

For heavens sake!


I get the fact that KP is a knob, I get that he has done things that in any other line of work would have had your P45 hand delivered, but the way the ECB has acted over the last year means I no longer can support the side I have followed for over half a century. You simply can not act like a brat when you are supposed to be a professional entity in charge of a national game.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue May 12, 2015 9:37 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:He couldn't get his side of the story down fast enough, almost as if he'd had it all planned out before he met Strauss.

Can't think that this is going to harm him financially, he might have given up his IPL contract, but I'm sure they'll be some nice little earners out of everything that's happened. Enough to keep him from having to remortgage his pad in Chelsea.

I don't think Pietersen really gives a damn about playing for England again, its all about image, publicity and his great big ego.


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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby #Brown » Tue May 12, 2015 9:38 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



X 2

I can no longer support this abhorrent regime


Then you two children sit in your corner, chuntering about what kind of 'regime' you'd like to support. That's exactly what the players, developed though the domestic games that many of us support, deserve. After all, it's fair that they're betrayed and put under unnecessary pressure because of the likes of you.

The entire business is sad, not least because we won't be seeing one of the greatest English talents on the biggest stage this summer, but perhaps after 18 months of this drawn out mess we'd be better looking forward to seeing future stars develop. It's hard not to feel for KP now, but I do believe he had it coming. He can think of the stacks of cash he made from sensationally insulting his former colleagues, and it should make him feel better about missing a few weeks of IPL.

I can't remember a time when cricket, and press conferences in particular, were this litigious. Some of the 'trust' nonsense outlined today has to be cover for guff that they're otherwise afraid to say. Maybe that is the trust issue; the fear that he'd be attending team meetings with legal representation...It would be interesting to know the amount the ECB has had to front in legal fees over the last year, money that could have been better spent on any number of other things. So sad.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby sussexpob » Tue May 12, 2015 9:40 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



X 2

I can no longer support this abhorrent regime


I hoped it wouldn't come to supporting Braddin, Wee Davie and Mitch1.

For heavens sake!


I think you under estimate how dis enfranchised people feel. This properly has made me angry, in the way that Istruggled to sleep angry.

I care about England cricket, for years it was my everything.....I feel like a wife who found out her husband has been shagging around
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 12, 2015 9:41 pm

I wish Strauss would come out and give his side of the story, but he won't because I guess he has integrity unlike big head. Unfortunately it means that with only one version of events available people take it as read that it is the whole truth which I'm sure it isn't. He didn't even go into much detail in his book except to say that he couldn't understand the hostility which Pietersen showed him towards the end of his captaincy. Remained diplomatic and wouldn't go into the character assassinations that Pietersen loves.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue May 12, 2015 9:42 pm

sussexpob wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:I will be supporting New Zealand and Australia this summer. England and the ECB do not deserve the support after the way they have acted.



X 2

I can no longer support this abhorrent regime


I hoped it wouldn't come to supporting Braddin, Wee Davie and Mitch1.

For heavens sake!


I think you under estimate how dis enfranchised people feel. This properly has made me angry, in the way that Istruggled to sleep angry.

I care about England cricket, for years it was my everything.....I feel like a wife who found out her husband has been shagging around

Double for heavens sake!!
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby sussexpob » Tue May 12, 2015 9:45 pm

Unlike you brown, I don't believe in blind faith. Support is a two way thing, and the ecb are insulting my intelligence with this parade of insulting rubbish

Why should I dogmatically support a team that treats supports like a mug...the people who pay the wages
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