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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby rich1uk » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:50 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:KPs runs are relevant to a suggestion that he let the team down on the pitch. I don't really make any claim that he did well in the series, and I never have.

A clique is understandable, even advantageous. But it depends how it behaves: Mean Girls or the Famous Five.


When KP went to Oz it was on the back of, by his standards, an already poor year and I suspect his continued failures in those ashes was a great frustration to him. In consequence he vented his frustration by finding fault with everything around him.


as opposed to everyone else pretending it was all KP's fault and everything else was fine despite a fairly humiliating tour
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:53 pm

Thanks Rich, that's a far better point.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:59 pm

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:KPs runs are relevant to a suggestion that he let the team down on the pitch. I don't really make any claim that he did well in the series, and I never have.

A clique is understandable, even advantageous. But it depends how it behaves: Mean Girls or the Famous Five.


When KP went to Oz it was on the back of, by his standards, an already poor year and I suspect his continued failures in those ashes was a great frustration to him. In consequence he vented his frustration by finding fault with everything around him.


as opposed to everyone else pretending it was all KP's fault and everything else was fine despite a fairly humiliating tour


Everyone pretending?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:03 am

Well, that's Whitewash 101. After being demolished 5-0, the problem wasn't the selectors, the coach, the captain, the vc ... it was the number four bat who... scored the most runs (I know).

Pretty much everyone outside that cabal above has stated that Kevin wasn't a problem.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby rich1uk » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:07 am

hopeforthebest wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:KPs runs are relevant to a suggestion that he let the team down on the pitch. I don't really make any claim that he did well in the series, and I never have.

A clique is understandable, even advantageous. But it depends how it behaves: Mean Girls or the Famous Five.


When KP went to Oz it was on the back of, by his standards, an already poor year and I suspect his continued failures in those ashes was a great frustration to him. In consequence he vented his frustration by finding fault with everything around him.


as opposed to everyone else pretending it was all KP's fault and everything else was fine despite a fairly humiliating tour


Everyone pretending?


how else do you explain how complacent the ECB have been about what happened ?

KP got made the scapegoat

Cook retained the captaincy, and got 100% support of TPTB

Flower stepped down as coach but got moved "upstairs" and still apparently has a key role
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby hopeforthebest » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:16 am

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:KPs runs are relevant to a suggestion that he let the team down on the pitch. I don't really make any claim that he did well in the series, and I never have.

A clique is understandable, even advantageous. But it depends how it behaves: Mean Girls or the Famous Five.


When KP went to Oz it was on the back of, by his standards, an already poor year and I suspect his continued failures in those ashes was a great frustration to him. In consequence he vented his frustration by finding fault with everything around him.


as opposed to everyone else pretending it was all KP's fault and everything else was fine despite a fairly humiliating tour


Everyone pretending?


how else do you explain how complacent the ECB have been about what happened ?

KP got made the scapegoat

Cook retained the captaincy, and got 100% support of TPTB

Flower stepped down as coach but got moved "upstairs" and still apparently has a key role


Everyone suggests you refer to the whole England squad when more than likely most of them had no idea what was going on until it was announced that KP was no longer to play for England.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby rich1uk » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:17 am

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Everyone suggests you refer to the whole England squad when more than likely most of them had no idea what was going on until it was announced that KP was no longer to play for England.


you really pulling semantics when it was quite obvious I meant everyone that was in a position of authority ?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:21 am

Outside of the management group, I think everyone has expressed an opinion, apart from Rankin, Bresnan and Borthwick.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby braveneutral » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:26 am

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braveneutral wrote:It has been quite the day it seems.


The day's not done until your story has been told bn. How did you get the book? Russian translation? KP your buddy?

It's a secret!

I am sure that it doesn't involve Piers Morgan's alleged activities.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:35 am

Criminality?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby meninblue » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:14 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... lture.html

The bullying culture that KP refers to is disgusting. Fielders were forced to apologize for dropped catches. :facepalm And they sacked KP for the sake of Team culture.

Once Prior in 2007 asked some Indian cricketer, I drive a Ferrari, which car do you drive? Does he knows how rich Sachin and other Indian cricketers contracts are. Wonder if Indian cricketers had replied with their various properties or huge estates, their contract values from International cricket, advertisements, IPL contracts etc.Do the rich indian cricketers boast or sledge their money power on the cricket field. I doubt. Prior really made a fool of himself.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:48 am

clubcricketeradi wrote:
The bullying culture that KP refers to is disgusting. Fielders were forced to apologize for dropped catches. :facepalm And they sacked KP for the sake of Team culture.

That's if we're accepting Pietersen's version of events as gospel, which I ain't.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Aidan11 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:49 am

There are no winners coming out of this.

We wont win the World Cup either.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:51 am

clubcricketeradi wrote:
Once Prior in 2007 asked some Indian cricketer, I drive a Ferrari, which car do you drive? Does he knows how rich Sachin and other Indian cricketers contracts are. Wonder if Indian cricketers had replied with their various properties or huge estates, their contract values from International cricket, advertisements, IPL contracts etc.Do the rich indian cricketers boast or sledge their money power on the cricket field. I doubt. Prior really made a fool of himself.

The likelihood is he did know, which is probably why he asked. Comparing supercars no doubt!
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:52 am

Aidan11 wrote:There are no winners coming out of this.

We wont win the World Cup either.

Who cares about the World Cup, since the onset of T20, the 50 over World Cup doesn't have the same level of importance as it did in the 80's and 90's.
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