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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:02 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Dr Robert wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Steve Waugh scored 3 hundreds in his ODI career, and must have played near 350-400 matches.....

Virat Kolhi doesn't make the list.... he averages nearly 20 runs more, has 18 more 100's, SR is about 16 runs per 100 better, and has nearly scored as many runs as Steve despite playing less than half the matches.....

Steve Waugh was probably the worst batter in the 1999 World Cup winning team.... in a best of all list, his name being mentioned is a mockery


His brother would be a better choice, than Steve himself.


I just edited that as you posted.


Gotcha.

Yes, Anwar is a very worthwhile candidate.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby shankycricket » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:09 pm

Sachin
Amla
Richards
Kohli
De Villiers
MSD
Klusener
Wasim
Warne
Garner
McGrath

Second XI

Gilly
M Waugh/Hayden/Jayasuriya
Ponting
Lara
Hussey
Bevan
Flintoff
Pollock
Saqlain
Waqar
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:27 pm

Sir Richard Hadlee has been overlooked. A bowling average of 21 and an econ of 3.3. A handy number 8/9 as well.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby sussexpob » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:31 pm

Dr Robert wrote:Sir Richard Hadlee has been overlooked. A bowling average of 21 and an econ of 3.3. A handy number 8/9 as well.


Not sure you can compare such stats to nowadays though.... would have had that handy a econ of 3.3 bowling to Sehwag, Kohli, et al?
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:32 pm

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Dr Robert wrote:Sir Richard Hadlee has been overlooked. A bowling average of 21 and an econ of 3.3. A handy number 8/9 as well.


Not sure you can compare such stats to nowadays though.... would have had that handy a econ of 3.3 bowling to Sehwag, Kohli, et al?


True, but he imo was a better ODI bowler than Marshall, who wasn't really all that great in ODI's, when compared to his test exploits.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby shankycricket » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:37 pm

Sehwag wasn't that great an ODI player. Average of 37 despite playing well most of his matches in India where 300 is a par score. Gilly had a similar average and SR, played in arguably tougher conditions performed in big WC matches, had a longer career, did all this despite the keeping workload. Why would anyone pick Sehwag over Gilly in an ODI XI?
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby sussexpob » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:09 pm

shankycricket wrote:Sehwag wasn't that great an ODI player. Average of 37 despite playing well most of his matches in India where 300 is a par score. Gilly had a similar average and SR, played in arguably tougher conditions performed in big WC matches, had a longer career, did all this despite the keeping workload. Why would anyone pick Sehwag over Gilly in an ODI XI?


Sehwag had a SR in excess of 100... he made anyone in his era look like Mike Atherton
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:11 pm

Looking over the stats, Dean Jones, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abass, Steyn, Hadlee and Curtly might have made it into the options.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:20 pm

Dean Jones was averaging 50 at one point, which was not the norm back then.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby shankycricket » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:58 pm

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shankycricket wrote:Sehwag wasn't that great an ODI player. Average of 37 despite playing well most of his matches in India where 300 is a par score. Gilly had a similar average and SR, played in arguably tougher conditions performed in big WC matches, had a longer career, did all this despite the keeping workload. Why would anyone pick Sehwag over Gilly in an ODI XI?


Sehwag had a SR in excess of 100... he made anyone in his era look like Mike Atherton

So did Gilly and he didn't play half his matches on featherbeds.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby andy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:15 pm

This is my odi xi of all time, may not use players from BBC shortlist...

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2.Hashim Amla
3.Adam Gilchrist (wk)
4.Sachin Tendulkar
5.Virat Kohli
6.Michael Bevan
7.Lance Klusener
8.Joel Garner
9.Brett Lee
10.Wasim Akram
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Red Devil » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:15 pm

shankycricket wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
shankycricket wrote:Sehwag wasn't that great an ODI player. Average of 37 despite playing well most of his matches in India where 300 is a par score. Gilly had a similar average and SR, played in arguably tougher conditions performed in big WC matches, had a longer career, did all this despite the keeping workload. Why would anyone pick Sehwag over Gilly in an ODI XI?


Sehwag had a SR in excess of 100... he made anyone in his era look like Mike Atherton

So did Gilly and he didn't play half his matches on featherbeds.


No, Gilly didn't
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby shankycricket » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:25 pm

Gilly - Avg 36 SR 97
Sehwag - Avg 35 SR 104

Considering that Gilly started off earlier than Sehwag and retired 5 years before him and didn't play much ODI cricket in the T20 era (Sehwag's best ODI performances came post 2008) and played majority of his cricket in conditions where the par ODI score is far lower than India, that IMO takes care of the SR difference (97 is hardly slouch anyway). Also, Sehwag never made much of an impact in World Cups unlike Gilly, surely that has to count for something too?
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:26 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Looking over the stats, Dean Jones, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abass, Steyn, Hadlee and Curtly might have made it into the options.


And Pollock.
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Re: Greatest ODI XI of all-time

Postby rich1uk » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:28 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Looking over the stats, Dean Jones, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abass, Steyn, Hadlee and Curtly might have made it into the options.


And Pollock.


even bob willis

80 wickets at 24 and an econ of 3.28 which is second behind garner for bowlers who played 25 or more ODIs from what I can see
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