India the Test Future?

[ddb]

That article isn't good. From suggesting to drop Raina in ODIs the other day, and now pick Sehwag as test captain because Dhoni is the one who isn't committed to tests, Ugra has lost it.

Dhoni should lose captaincy because he's failing at it, not because of some quotes put together to illustrate that he doesn't care.

And Sehwag is the last replacement if you're looking for commitment.

Shows a lot of personal bias against Dhoni but tbf it's the meme atm, drop Dhoni as captain, drop Sachin and all India's problems magically disappear...

[andy]

i would only drop Dhoni in tests, i would keep him in odi's as captain...

drop dhoni as test captain, and make Kohli captain IMO

[shankycricket]

That article isn't good.
From suggesting to drop Raina in ODIs the other day, and now pick Sehwag
as test captain because Dhoni is the one who isn't committed to tests,
Ugra has lost it.

Dhoni should lose captaincy because he's failing at it, not because of
some quotes put together to illustrate that he doesn't care.

And Sehwag is the last replacement if you're looking for commitment.

Shows a lot of personal bias against Dhoni but tbf it's the meme atm,
drop Dhoni as captain, drop Sachin and all India's problems magically
disappear...

Drop Sehwag and GG too, no?

[meninblue]

The Ranji season would finish before the test series. However, i doubt we will see any new inclusions.

[andy]

we can talk about players needing to change etc....but IMO there needs to be changes higher up within the BCCI...

there are too many reports etc, on players getting chances in IPL or international cricket etc, because of people higher up sticking their nose in and trying to run the side...the coach and captain pick the side, and they should be given free reign when it comes to dropping players, or new training methods etc...however its clear Flecther has little to no power at all, and things arent going to change if people higher up in the BCCI wont let people get on with their jobs...a case of BCCI getting invovled was clear in the IPL when Morne Morkel was left out of a semi final i think with Delhi because someone else got a chance because their relative higher up in the ranks demanded he was played, meaning morkel had to be left out...so for things to change better examples need to be set higher up within the BCCI...heads need to roll, and for the sake of indian cricket, and indian test cricket in particualr, heads need to roll, sooner rather than later.

[ddb]

Fletcher has no power supposedly but then why did we see Varun Aaron picked for India? He's a typical Fletcher speed gun selection. Why did we see Fletcher defend the decision to not go for it at Dominica? That's where the slide started.

And if Fletcher wanted to exercise power, he maybe could watch a domestic game in his two years of being India coach. As it is, he goes back home after every series. It's a very cosy job.

[andy]

im pretty sure he must have seen a domestic game or a few of them DDB...do you have any proof that he hasnt seen any domestic games?

[ddb]

http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-arti ... cket/33728

[andy]

thank you

[Red Devil]

That article isn't good. From suggesting to drop Raina in ODIs the other day, and now pick Sehwag as test captain because Dhoni is the one who isn't committed to tests, Ugra has lost it.

Dhoni should lose captaincy because he's failing at it, not because of some quotes put together to illustrate that he doesn't care.

And Sehwag is the last replacement if you're looking for commitment.

Shows a lot of personal bias against Dhoni but tbf it's the meme atm, drop Dhoni as captain, drop Sachin and all India's problems magically disappear...

agreed that there's a lot of madness, but i do think the time has come for Ind to move on - so SRT should go, also time for Dhoni to step down as test cap[tain because he's not really performing as a player or captain. he should focus on ODIs and T20.

GG and Viru - can't see them doing anything in SA - except maybe Viru if he plays in the middle order. So maybe time to look at bringing others in. Rahane, Mukund and Dhawan are all possibles - Jiwanjot Singh could be worth a try but tbh I think I'd like to see him on some A tours abroad first. If Rahane opens then we need 2 middle order players to be alongside Pujara at 3 and Kohli at 4. Manoj Tiwary and Badrinath both have decent claims but again I think Mandeep Singh could be worth a look (although again maybe some A team experience and playing abroad more would help).

Bowling - stop picking Chawla!!! Also, there needs to be some real focus on proper managment of our seamers as the injury problems suggest there are serious issues. Umesh needs to be handled carefully and we need to really focus on developing a group of seamers - there should be a dedicated program specifically for this - BCCI should think about using there resources to get the likes of Wasim and Donald in to do this.

[shankycricket]

That article isn't good. From suggesting to drop Raina in ODIs the other day, and now pick Sehwag as test captain because Dhoni is the one who isn't committed to tests, Ugra has lost it.

Dhoni should lose captaincy because he's failing at it, not because of some quotes put together to illustrate that he doesn't care.

And Sehwag is the last replacement if you're looking for commitment.

Shows a lot of personal bias against Dhoni but tbf it's the meme atm, drop Dhoni as captain, drop Sachin and all India's problems magically disappear...

agreed that there's a lot of madness, but i do think the time has come for Ind to move on - so SRT should go, also time for Dhoni to step down as test cap[tain because he's not really performing as a player or captain. he should focus on ODIs and T20.

GG and Viru - can't see them doing anything in SA - except maybe Viru if he plays in the middle order. So maybe time to look at bringing others in. Rahane, Mukund and Dhawan are all possibles - Jiwanjot Singh could be worth a try but tbh I think I'd like to see him on some A tours abroad first. If Rahane opens then we need 2 middle order players to be alongside Pujara at 3 and Kohli at 4. Manoj Tiwary and Badrinath both have decent claims but again I think Mandeep Singh could be worth a look (although again maybe some A team experience and playing abroad more would help).

Bowling - stop picking Chawla!!! Also, there needs to be some real focus on proper managment of our seamers as the injury problems suggest there are serious issues. Umesh needs to be handled carefully and we need to really focus on developing a group of seamers - there should be a dedicated program specifically for this - BCCI should think about using there resources to get the likes of Wasim and Donald in to do this.

The way he is batting at the moment, he won't even score in the middle order.

[shankycricket]

That article isn't good. From suggesting to drop Raina in ODIs the other day, and now pick Sehwag as test captain because Dhoni is the one who isn't committed to tests, Ugra has lost it.

Dhoni should lose captaincy because he's failing at it, not because of some quotes put together to illustrate that he doesn't care.

And Sehwag is the last replacement if you're looking for commitment.

Shows a lot of personal bias against Dhoni but tbf it's the meme atm, drop Dhoni as captain, drop Sachin and all India's problems magically disappear...

agreed that there's a lot of madness, but i do think the time has come for Ind to move on - so SRT should go, also time for Dhoni to step down as test cap[tain because he's not really performing as a player or captain. he should focus on ODIs and T20.

GG and Viru - can't see them doing anything in SA - except maybe Viru if he plays in the middle order. So maybe time to look at bringing others in. Rahane, Mukund and Dhawan are all possibles - Jiwanjot Singh could be worth a try but tbh I think I'd like to see him on some A tours abroad first. If Rahane opens then we need 2 middle order players to be alongside Pujara at 3 and Kohli at 4. Manoj Tiwary and Badrinath both have decent claims but again I think Mandeep Singh could be worth a look (although again maybe some A team experience and playing abroad more would help).

Bowling - stop picking Chawla!!! Also, there needs to be some real focus on proper managment of our seamers as the injury problems suggest there are serious issues. Umesh needs to be handled carefully and we need to really focus on developing a group of seamers - there should be a dedicated program specifically for this - BCCI should think about using there resources to get the likes of Wasim and Donald in to do this.

Jiwanjot Singh does play on a seam friendly Mohali track though. I'd get him in.

[Red Devil]

Jiwanjot
Rahane (Dhawan or Mukund in reserve)
Pujara
Jadeja
Kohli
Tiwary / Badrinath / maybe Mandeep?
Parthiv / Kaul / ???
Ashwin
Ishant / ???
Yadav
Ojha

for home tests v Aus?

[ddb]

Can't pick someone who's only had one good season, could be a false dawn.

Jadeja is too high as well. You can only play him if he bats at 6 or 7 really.

[shankycricket]

Better than picking someone who hasn't had a good current season though. Anyone who scores at Mohali must be pretty decent. Don't agree with Jadeja being in the team though. Rohit for Jadeja. I'd probably keep MSD as the keeper for now though he should not be the captain. And I'd have Shami Ahmed for Ishant. Shami did well on both the A tours and has had a couple of good Ranji seasons to go alongwith impressive ODI performances.