Big Three take over ICC?

[D/L]

Firstly, BCCI will never isolate itself from the ICC because they have so much power now in cricketing world...

Seems more like a reason that they may than that they wouldn’t.

Many, who see them as a malign influence, will not be sorry if they do.

Hopefully, sense will prevail, and the status quo, imperfect as it is, will be preserved on this issue at least. Unfortunately, it is too late for others.

[Making_Splinters]

Horrible to see the BCCI holding the game to ransom to get its wau. If they can't legitimately, with out blackmail, get the number of votes they need then they should accept that the game does not want this.

When the BCCI pulls things like this, it makes one realise how terrible this idea is.

[hopeforthebest]

BCCI has started to react to get the work done.


BCCI puts ICC events on the line

The BCCI today virtually served notice on any ICC Full Members opposed to a makeover of the ruling body, indicating that India's participation in ICC events was subject to approval of the radical draft proposal by the ICC's executive board. The proposal recommends a structural overhaul of the ICC and proposes bigger revenues and more executive decision-making powers to the BCCI, Cricket Australia and the ECB.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/conte ... 12253.html

That article now confirms what many suspected that it's all about money, in particular BCCI greed.

[Alviro Patterson]

Firstly, BCCI will never isolate itself from the ICC because they have so much power now in cricketing world. Also, in case BCCI is isolated by any reason it will still make huge revenue as the cricket crazy Indian population is too huge. Even IPL as single expanded tournament will be enough to sustain the revues for BCCI.Unless the cricket crazy Indian fans don't give up , cricketing board in India will never get into any losses. The way they have marketed IPL as a product to the fans as well as cricketers and boards of other countries is amazing in business aspects.

Who knows BCCI will come up with its own 50 over tournament wherein the international players continue to play along side IPL.It will find ways to increase the revenues if it isolates or is isolated.

Problem for the IPL is they are heavily reliant on overseas players and coaches. Should the BCCI impose their self-exile, the ICC and it's members could just turn around and ban cricketers from participating in BCCI events. Initially some players might be prepared to do this, but at some point they will need replacing.

In the meantime the ICC and member nations launch alternative plans. They may well decide to have agreements on international players participating in domestic Twenty20 tournaments, running alongside test matches as a filler. Cricket boards will be onto a winner as revenue streams at a national level are boosted and this is filtered down their setups, whilst the players themselves are getting valuable experience in a wide range of playing conditions.

Over time the ICC become stronger through increased participation, whereas the BCCI only have control at a domestic level.

[Making_Splinters]

I truly hope the members of the ICC call the BCCIs bluff.

[yuppie]

I truly hope the members of the ICC call the BCCIs bluff.

I really hope so to, but i dont see it happening like this.

We are Watching the demise of cricket on a global stage, and securing the interest of 3 national boards. I thought Fifa were bad

[meninblue]

Firstly, BCCI will never isolate itself from the ICC because they have so much power now in cricketing world. Also, in case BCCI is isolated by any reason it will still make huge revenue as the cricket crazy Indian population is too huge. Even IPL as single expanded tournament will be enough to sustain the revues for BCCI.Unless the cricket crazy Indian fans don't give up , cricketing board in India will never get into any losses. The way they have marketed IPL as a product to the fans as well as cricketers and boards of other countries is amazing in business aspects.

Who knows BCCI will come up with its own 50 over tournament wherein the international players continue to play along side IPL.It will find ways to increase the revenues if it isolates or is isolated.

Problem for the IPL is they are heavily reliant on overseas players and coaches. Should the BCCI impose their self-exile, the ICC and it's members could just turn around and ban cricketers from participating in BCCI events. Initially some players might be prepared to do this, but at some point they will need replacing.

In the meantime the ICC and member nations launch alternative plans. They may well decide to have agreements on international players participating in domestic Twenty20 tournaments, running alongside test matches as a filler. Cricket boards will be onto a winner as revenue streams at a national level are boosted and this is filtered down their setups, whilst the players themselves are getting valuable experience in a wide range of playing conditions.

Over time the ICC become stronger through increased participation, whereas the BCCI only have control at a domestic level.

Some good points put forward Considering them it might be difficult for BCCI to sustain it if they pull out of ICC tournaments.India fans wills till watch whatever cricket is available to us.We even watch the Bangladesh Premiere league, FLt20, YB Pro 40, Ryobi cup, Ram Slam etc.So it's not that fans here will stop watching cricket if BCCI withdraws from ICC.If a ICC or other cricket tournament is broadcasted in India, it will be watched.So those countries will still earn by broadcast revenues.

The problem however is that ECB and CA are supporting BCCI. So it is unlikely that BCCI will be boycotted by other boards.This venture by 3 boards will have a negative impact on the game of cricket in terms of quality of other nations.It will drop down further after about 15 years.

[from_the_stands]

Problem for the IPL is they are heavily reliant on overseas players and coaches. Should the BCCI impose their self-exile, the ICC and it's members could just turn around and ban cricketers from participating in BCCI events. Initially some players might be prepared to do this, but at some point they will need replacing.

Should the ICC impose a ban on players taking part in BCCI events, it wouldn't stop players from signing on, just as they did with WSC, rebel tours to South Africa, and to some extent the ICL. Players from poorer boards for example, would be falling over themselves to get an IPL contract, like they already do. Consider this, Indian cricket already generates billions of dollars a year. If this all blew up over the next 12 months and the BCCI said to their IPL franchises, add a zero to the salary cap, it would be bye-bye to any decent player playing the game.

[Alviro Patterson]

Some good points put forward Considering them it might be difficult for BCCI to sustain it if they pull out of ICC tournaments.India fans wills till watch whatever cricket is available to us.We even watch the Bangladesh Premiere league, FLt20, YB Pro 40, Ryobi cup, Ram Slam etc.So it's not that fans here will stop watching cricket if BCCI withdraws from ICC.If a ICC or other cricket tournament is broadcasted in India, it will be watched.So those countries will still earn by broadcast revenues.

The problem however is that ECB and CA are supporting BCCI. So it is unlikely that BCCI will be boycotted by other boards.This venture by 3 boards will have a negative impact on the game of cricket in terms of quality of other nations.It will drop down further after about 15 years.

ECB and Cricket Australia making a u-turn can't be ruled out, especially if they have an outside partner on board. The ECB have always wanted a flagship Twenty20 tournament of their own and have cosied up with Allen Stamford. However the history and tradition of County Cricket is prevented the franchise model from ever happening in England.

Problem for the IPL is they are heavily reliant on overseas players and coaches. Should the BCCI impose their self-exile, the ICC and it's members could just turn around and ban cricketers from participating in BCCI events. Initially some players might be prepared to do this, but at some point they will need replacing.

Should the ICC impose a ban on players taking part in BCCI events, it wouldn't stop players from signing on, just as they did with WSC, rebel tours to South Africa, and to some extent the ICL. Players from poorer boards for example, would be falling over themselves to get an IPL contract, like they already do. Consider this, Indian cricket already generates billions of dollars a year. If this all blew up over the next 12 months and the BCCI said to their IPL franchises, add a zero to the salary cap, it would be bye-bye to any decent player playing the game.

There will always be players who will chase the money, however not all players are Twenty20 specialists and the IPL is limited to 20 over cricket. The franchise model hasn't been a roaring success as three IPL franchises have folded.

ECB, Cricket Australia and the ICC could easily join forces with Rupert Murdoch and come up with lucrative broadcasting rights akin to that of the Football Premier League. Domestic association football in England has already reached saturation point in terms of generating revenue and BskyB are no longer dominant as a broadcasting partner as British Telecom have won first pick rights for Premier League football and exclusive rights for UEFA European football.

It would not be surprising if Rupert Murdoch is closely following these developments and comes up with a rival proposal, which gets the remaining 9 test nations and ICC on board.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Some significant opposition seems to be building.

The ECB seem to be placed to profit massively from this proposal. So any chance getting cricket back on terrestrial tv?

[Making_Splinters]

I can't see this going through after the very public backlash against the proposals. It's interesting that the ECB and CA have been very silent over their proposed roles in this compared with the BCCI who are yet again engaging in their attempts to blackmail and bully the international game.

The only real concern is that the BCCI will do almost anything to save face.

[mikesiva]

'However much we pound our fists and rightly rail against the brazen conspiracy between Australia, England and India to effectively hijack international cricket, the West Indies Cricket Board is obliged to accept a galling reality. As with most things, it has to do with money. The triumvirate's aim is to become the ICC's supreme rulers. As such, they will make the crucial decisions. The Future Tours Programme (FTP) will be scrapped in favour of bilateral arrangements for tours, and two-division Test cricket introduced, with promotion and demotion - from which last those three teams will be exempt. They will redistribute, on a more proportionate basis, the ICC's annual revenue, to which India currently contributes 80%. The rich getting richer, the poor poorer....There is undeniably substance to such concerns, but it would be a courageous president to tell the superpowers, especially India, that the WICB rejects their intended takeover; such preference for principle over practicality carries potentially damaging repercussions. The financial value of relations with India was never more obvious to West Indies than during India's involvement in the triangular ODI tournament in the Caribbean last year. The teams contested the Celkon Mobile Cup, presented by a Hyderabad-based manufacturer of mobile phones. It, and a host of other Indian products and services, household names in the subcontinent but unheard of on this side of the planet, filled the ground perimeter advertising boards. They were there because live coverage of the matches was transmitted back to India by Ten Sports, the Dubai-based Indian production company that won the rights to international cricket in the Caribbean in 2012....For West Indies, perhaps the most ominous point in the proposals is that "no member should be forced to host uneconomic tours". "Uneconomic" is a term that has come to be associated with a team consistently languishing in the bottom half of the ICC's Test and ODI standings for nearly 20 years....Former New Zealand captain Martin Crowe's take on two-tiered Test cricket in regard to West Indies and New Zealand is that it is "disrespectful and ignores the great history that has built up over a century or more". Such sentimentality is foreign to the businessmen, bankers and assorted types who now manage the game strictly on the dictates of the financial bottom line. The upshot is that, come Tuesday and Wednesday in Dubai, the WICB, even against its principles, will support the radical makeover put forward by Australia, England and India. It couldn't have happened 30 years ago.'


http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 13019.html

[meninblue]

Apparently BCCI website was hacked by a Bangladeshi.The website is now showing "Under Maintenance". Not too many are pleased with the Big 3 takeover.


This was shown on the bcci.tv homepage.

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Got a link which confirms this:

http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/bcci-offi ... 27419.html

[meninblue]

We used to pay top teams to come to India: BCCI

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... -board-icc

Reacting to criticism that the Indian cricket board (BCCI) is trying to take over world cricket by changing ICC's pecking order, a top Board official said that in the eighties, BCCI used to pay top cricket playing nations like the West Indies and Australia to play against India.

"BCCI used to pay more than half-and-million dollars as guarantee money for inviting teams like the West Indies and Australia home. That time no one had a problem," a top BCCI official told TOI on Friday

[mikesiva]

Arjuna Ranatunga speaks his mind....

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat ... itle=96568

"It was India that played the key role in abolishing the veto system within the ICC. Now BCCI is taking the lead role in what eventually will be a system where without the big three’s consent nothing will work. Even Srinivasan’s son-in-law will not be banned from cricket activities because BCCI will object to such a move," Ranatunga told The Island. "The manner in which the paper was tabled and moves to hastily pass it suggests that there’s something fishy," Ranatunga added. "The proposed system seems to encourage bilateral series based on financial value. Let’s say that South Africa are ranked number one in the world and teams should be encouraged to play them more often, but the system that has been proposed encourages to play countries that have financial clout like India. In the end everyone will want to play India and BCCI will turn around and say who is suitable and not suitable to be CEO of other boards. What just happened to South African cricket is a case in point," Ranatunga put it articulately. "There are so many negatives in the proposed draft. Apparently the position of Chairman of the ICC will rotate between BCCI, CA and ECB. I am not against change. But let those who are calling the shots look at other sports bodies and recommend changes. The US is not telling the International Olympic Committee members that we bring the largest revenue and hence we need more control of the IOC. The IOC has a history of over 110 years and only once has an American been President of IOC. Due to the proposed system there will be no democracy and other countries will be at the mercy of BCCI. Australia and England merely will follow BCCI orders."