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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby OffStumpYorker » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:38 am

sportbloggeradi wrote:
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sportbloggeradi wrote:Dhoni showed his bat to the umpire yesterday like many batsmen do when bowlers appeal for LBW. I wonder whether the batsman show the bat when they edge it to keeper ;)

Simon Doull during commentary: If you really want to help the umpire by showing the bat in case of an inside edge then why not use DRS to help umpire.


To be honest thats an old ploy to try and kid the umpire you got an inside edge onto the pad, just like the nonchalant look of innocence when you get a feignt edge behind,you do everything to avoid looking behind and definately dont look at the bat.


Sometimes the batsmen get bad decisions so they are bit justified not to walk when they edge in case umpire makes a mistake. However, showing the bat and batsman acting like a snickometer or hotspot is not good. But times have changed, now they even argue with umpire why no ball was given / not given for waist height ones.


Thats my point though Adi, this isnt something new in regards to looking at the edge if the ball strikes the pads, and you know you've not hit it, especially if you have an umpire who takes time to consider the giving lbw's.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby ddb » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:56 am

Umpiring has been bad in Ind NZ series especially in regard to NZ.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby D/L » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:01 am

ddb wrote:Umpiring has been bad in Ind NZ series especially in regard to NZ.

With no DRS, one would expect it to be below the standards now being set. In any area of activity, quality control generally has a beneficial effect. The umpires in India have nobody independent in authority checking their work. Should we be surprised then that New Zealand have, apparently, suffered more than India from poor umpiring?
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby OffStumpYorker » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:01 pm

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ddb wrote:Umpiring has been bad in Ind NZ series especially in regard to NZ.

With no DRS, one would expect it to be below the standards now being set. In any area of activity, quality control generally has a beneficial effect. The umpires in India have nobody independent in authority checking their work. Should we be surprised then that New Zealand have, apparently, suffered more than India from poor umpiring?


Arnt the umpires neutral, and on the elite panel those should be able to get most (90%) of decisions correct.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby D/L » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:26 pm

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ddb wrote:Umpiring has been bad in Ind NZ series especially in regard to NZ.

With no DRS, one would expect it to be below the standards now being set. In any area of activity, quality control generally has a beneficial effect. The umpires in India have nobody independent in authority checking their work. Should we be surprised then that New Zealand have, apparently, suffered more than India from poor umpiring?


Arnt the umpires neutral, and on the elite panel those should be able to get most (90%) of decisions correct.

Yes, the umpires are neutral in that they have neither home nor away team nationalities, but it seems a shame to deliberately impose a lower ceiling on the proportion of correct decisions made.

Also, with the use of DRS, the likelihood of any outside influence being brought to bear on the overall effect of poor decisions, i.e. which side suffers the greater, is reduced, if not eliminated altogether.

It is a concern, particularly with England due to tour India soon.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby meninblue » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:36 pm

I want DRS because one reason is like cricketers are fixed, there are chances of umpires being fixed in non DRS matches. DRS will usually rule out purposeful wrong decisions by umpire.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby D/L » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:44 pm

sportbloggeradi wrote:...DRS will usually rule out purposeful wrong decisions by umpire.

Precisely, sba. When DRS is in place, the public are able to judge when an error has been made. Without it, umpires may exercise bias (conscious or not, though I don't think any of today's umpires would exercise bias of his own free will) and others may exert pressure on umpires to favour one side or another in marginal decisions.

DRS, along with its other benefits, would strangle at birth any plan to exert pressure on umpires. With the detailed scrutiny it can provide, a succession of close decisions in favour of one side or the other would probably be seen as more than mere coincidence.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:04 pm

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An old saying goes along the lines of, “Pick the Battle you can win not the war you will lose” and I feel here that it is very apt indeed: Instead of trying to ram the DRS down people’s throats would it not be significantly wiser to try and increase an individual board’s autonomy on when they can use the system, an analogy here would be touring parties have no say in what pitches will be prepared for the series so why should they have a say in whether or not DRS will be used? At present DRS requires both the home side and the touring side to agree on its use in a series and rather than trying to make its use mandatory I would suggest that the ICC removes this constraint for mutual agreement to be necessary. Pitch the DRS as home advantage and then leave it up to the individual home boards to decide whether or not they view it as an advantage or not.


In a renewed effort to push for the DRS to be universally implemented in bilateral series, every member on the ICC chief executives committee (CEC) barring India backed a change in policy that would see the home board having the right to choose the use of the DRS in a meeting held in Dubai on December 4.


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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:02 pm

ICC should man up and tell the BCCI to **** off
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby DeltaAlpha » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:06 pm

It's a bit like a tale I once heard about a couple watching their young son taking part in a Scouts' parade. "Oh, look," said the mother, "They're all out of step except our Johnny."
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby meninblue » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:02 am

In Indo-Pak ODI series, during the first over LBW appeal that umpire turned down off kumar, Dhoni gestured the umpire for DRS review. :lol: Offcourse he was just joking with Billy. On a serious note I have read that Dhoni has asked the BCCI president to reconsider DRS.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby meninblue » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:48 pm

India threaten pull-out over DRS

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IMO UDRS should be mandatory, but now with this news i can't see it happening :no
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:22 pm

I was going to say that nothing comes as suprise anymore but India directly threatening other boards over DRS is fairly shocking behaviour.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby Chris de Burgh » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:02 pm

It astounds me though that no one took a stand against this threat. If they (unlikely but hopefully) put through this proposal that the home board decides on the DRS then the rest of the cricketing world can move on. If India then back out of a series because the home board decides to use UDRS then let India pull out, let them cut off their nose to spite their own face, let them take the fall and the bad PR for their stubborn, infantile and pointless stance.
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Re: Should the DRS be mandatory?

Postby rich1uk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:13 pm

the thing that really wound me up about this story today was the number of indian fans on the cricinfo comments suggesting that the BCCI dont want to use hawkeye or hotspot because they were developed by english companies. i know there are idiots everywhere but it does worry me if people really believe things like that.
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