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Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:13 pmby Making_Splinters
He just nailed a second innings ton against us, nothing else matters.
Easiest way to stop someone mouthing off is to have them back in the hutch early doors, not whinging about it.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:34 pmby shankycricket
from_the_stands wrote:mikesiva wrote:The only controversy surrounding Warner is when he plays England....
He's just another cricketer when he plays any other Test team. I watched him batting in Barbados last year, and I felt no feelings of controversy about him. I can't help feeling that the Ashes contests are a bit too overhyped. The media in both countries take the Ashes way too seriously, and are too eager to find players to hate. English media and fans boo Warner wherever possible, and Aussie media and fans boo Stuart Broad wherever possible. I think it's time for both sets of media and fans to take a step back from the brink, and to ask themselves, is all this really cricket?
The Ashes is so much more than a cricket series though, Mike. It's a sporting tradition that launched the sport onto the international landscape. It's when two countries go to war against each other, then sit down and have a beer together when it's all over. It's about a collection of colonial upstarts sticking up two fingers to their former masters... and sometimes getting their bums smacked for doing so. It's a contest where the rest of the cricket world pauses to take notice (a bit like the IPL). It's about history littered with greatness and controversies, and it's about the dreams of just about every kid living in those two great countries. The deeds committed in these contests are remembered forever, far longer than the deeds committed in any other series.
Can't believe you compared the Ashes to the IPL.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:18 amby Chris de Burgh
Attention wise the IPL is as gawdy as they come and does attract more attention. Quality wise the Ashes is streets ahead and doesn't need all the flashy gimmicks employed by the IPL. I must confess I am a big cynic as regards 20/20 but even with that taken into consideration I've never seen anything in the IPL and it's gosh awful commentary and product mentions/placement.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:19 amby from_the_stands
Oh c'mon Shanks, the IPL is a quality comp. It's not the Ashes, but it's up there in terms of garnering the attention of the cricket world.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:29 amby Making_Splinters
from_the_stands wrote:Oh c'mon Shanks, the IPL is a quality comp. It's not the Ashes, but it's up there in terms of garnering the attention of the cricket world.
In all honesty, more attention.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:01 amby D/L
from_the_stands wrote:Oh c'mon Shanks, the IPL is a quality comp,,.
The best single word description I can think of the IPL and the ethos surrounding it is "tawdry".
Back to Warner. As long as it’s legal, why should anyone care what he says? They are only words and, in his case, words uttered by someone whose actions would suggest he may be a sandwich short of a picnic.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:10 pmby Durhamfootman
I quite like Dave Warner. the 'scared eyes' thing is exactly the sort of banter required of a short leg/ silly point fielder. Effective too. I lost track of the number of dismissals of england batsmen softly fending the ball to close in fielders.
Don't approve of the 'breaking arm' thing, that certainly crosses a line in my book, despite what MV thinks, but how much of that was Warner I couldn't say. It seemed more like Clarke to me, which doesn't surprise me. After seeing him operate at close quarters earlier in the year, I definitely get the feeling that the class he oozes as a batsman is most certainly not evident as a man
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:55 pmby andy
Warner has admitted he may have gone too far, but has stopped short of apolgising.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:13 pmby GarlicJam
My criticism of Warner's comments in the media were based on what I saw as hubris, and his comments' ability to actually work against Australia.
I don't see Cook's point about not making comments in public about an opposition player's shortcomings, when 1. it is absolutely fine to heap praise upon them publicly, 2. it is par for the course to sledge, abuse and insult them on the pitch, and 3. plenty of media pundits had far, far worse to say about Trott's performance.
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:53 pmby andy
CA must be tearing their hair out though with Warner...its always one thing after another with him..
Re: Much Ado about Dave Warner
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:28 pmby from_the_stands
The Dave Warner juggernaut continues to roll on. After shooting his mouth off once more, he's followed it up with another fine batting performance. Whilst I cringe every time he opens his mouth, he does tend to back it up every time. I guess I'll have to get used to his mouth if he is to continue the good form he is obviously in. Perhaps he should start writing a newspaper column, providing a forum for him to say stupid things. I guess i should be happy that he hasn't had a swing at one of the Saffer's. With Dale Steyn due to be an IPL team mate this year, maybe Warner will take a swipe at him after having a few drinks after a game. Can't wait to see how he goes against the Pakistani's.