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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Making_Splinters » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:37 am

Hameed has played a couple of decent innings in the last few games. If he could grab a ton or two in the four remaining innings he has then it would be hard to justify not taking him.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:27 am

greyblazer wrote:Jennings was in form during the early season and flopped. Haseeb at his worst is still better compared to the players I have seen who have got the opportunity to play for England in the recent past.


Jennings test average is pretty similar to hameeds current season performance, so not sure where you base that on. Stonemans test average is better, as is Robson's. Lyths is only 1-2 runs away.

Hameed is a longer term project, and possibly a better player than those, but the idea of taking him away to Australia after his year of tailend production is only going to achieve his personal career annihilation.

He comes back next year and puts runs on the board, he's in there. You can't consider him on how he's playing currently.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby meninblue » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:59 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:The most like that must be Graeme Smith (though for a time Hoggard did get him lbw for fun) but so often he invited the lbw, but fed off the attempt.

Zak too . LBW or bowled.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:14 pm

Have a sneaky suspicion that Hameed will be named in Ashes squad, with Stoneman batting 3
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:58 pm

Hameed has broken his finger again, so that's him out one would assume.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:19 pm

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:20 pm

it might be the best thing for him. Often players not involved in a complete kicking end up looking like better players
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:16 am

Making_Splinters wrote:Hameed has broken his finger again, so that's him out one would assume.


Should have healed by the time England leave.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Making_Splinters » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:50 am

Slipstream wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:Hameed has broken his finger again, so that's him out one would assume.


Should have healed by the time England leave.


More that he's not going to have anymore innings this season, and he's only just started showing any sort of form this season.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby DiligentDefence » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:09 am

Making_Splinters wrote:
Slipstream wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:Hameed has broken his finger again, so that's him out one would assume.


Should have healed by the time England leave.


More that he's not going to have anymore innings this season, and he's only just started showing any sort of form this season.

Also think how long it took to find any form after the last injury.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

I read that the Ashes squad will be announced on Wednesday.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:04 am

Even hameed scoring runs last dig would have been fairly non indicative of a wider picture of poor form. I think it won't harm or help his chances either way. They back him regardless of form or not
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:14 pm

Hameed was coming back to his best says Scott Reid who has seen him all season. Changed his guard.

So fast bowlers to Australia
Main party - Anderson Broad Woakes Stokes Finn Ball
Lions - Wood Porter Curran Overton Helm Garton (the selectors seem to love him)

Wood is supposed to play in the match v Worcs. Pictured today bowling off a few paces. Hopefully he will be ready by Monday. Hasn't played enough to get in the main party but who knows how England think. He might even play the 1st Test.

3 warm up games in Aus. Bayliss to decide which bowlers play in which games. See 4 main fast bowlers playing in day/night game, maybe Perth as well.
4 day Perth
4 d/n Adelaide
4 day Townsville

Last time in warm ups
Stokes 14 overs
Anderson 30
Tremlett 37
Broad 50
Rankin 73 (1 Test)
Finn 81.3 (Finn played in 0 Tests out there)
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:10 pm

Slipstream wrote:Hameed was coming back to his best says Scott Reid who has seen him all season. Changed his guard.

So fast bowlers to Australia
Main party - Anderson Broad Woakes Stokes Finn Ball
Lions - Wood Porter Curran Overton Helm Garton (the selectors seem to love him)

Wood is supposed to play in the match v Worcs. Pictured today bowling off a few paces. Hopefully he will be ready by Monday. Hasn't played enough to get in the main party but who knows how England think. He might even play the 1st Test.

3 warm up games in Aus. Bayliss to decide which bowlers play in which games. See 4 main fast bowlers playing in day/night game, maybe Perth as well.
4 day Perth
4 d/n Adelaide
4 day Townsville

Last time in warm ups
Stokes 14 overs
Anderson 30
Tremlett 37
Broad 50
Rankin 73 (1 Test)
Finn 81.3 (Finn played in 0 Tests out there)


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricke ... -Wood.html

That doesn't sound good, having a pain killing injection to be able to play a 4 day game. Surely he is doing more damage.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:17 pm

Interesting about who bowled most the warm ups last time!

Maybe the warm ups were an extended bowl off for the last bowling spot.
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