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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed May 30, 2018 10:39 pm

when I used to play cricket matches with playing cards when I was a boy, Steele was always my number 3
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:34 am

Think if David Willey has a poor summer, could be the last we see of him for a while? Only effectibr with the new ball, cannon fodder rest of the time, and hasn't delivered with the bat at international level either...?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:47 pm

Pace bowlers are inconsistent in white ball games these days. Some days, anyone at all could go the distance. I don't think they need to definitively cast him out, but I suspect he wouldn't get in the best first XI now. Not sure he's exactly cannon fodder after the tenth over; though he rarely gets a chance later on now, which says the captain doesn't trust him.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:54 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Pace bowlers are inconsistent in white ball games these days. Some days, anyone at all could go the distance. I don't think they need to definitively cast him out, but I suspect he wouldn't get in the best first XI now. Not sure he's exactly cannon fodder after the tenth over; though he rarely gets a chance later on now, which says the captain doesn't trust him.



On most pitches around the world, he pretty much is cannon fodder...military medium pace, and unless the ball moves around you can just hit through the line against him...i wonder if he bowled in middle overs etc at some point, to get through more overs, the keeper could stand up to the stumps?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby sussexpob » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:19 pm

Willey doesnt have a role in this team anymore. When he first got capped, England probably had a batting line up that could have routinely used him coming in near the end and plundering 15-20 runs in quick time. Nowadays, they rarely need it, so whatever batting capacity he his is underused and puts far more pressure on his bowling. And is he, or has he ever, been a standout full time bowling option? Not for me.

When I watch him I cant help but think he was born 20 years too late. Back then, you could hide people like Robin Singh in the middle overs to get those out the way as batsman consolidated, and then their fielding and occasional bat thrusting at the death could win you matches. Those roles dont exist anymore.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:39 pm

Four English CC1 batters averaging over fifty in a summer where the ball dominated early on: Foakes, Hildreth, Burns, Pope.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby bigfluffylemon » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:24 am

Pope looks set to be the next Bairstow. He's even ginger.

Seriously, early days, but the lad looks set for an England future. Unless the wheels fall off when he gets picked up for development by the Lions. How often does that happen? :facepalm
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:56 pm

I don't know why they are so hesitant to try Foakes?
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