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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:48 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Must be tempting. Do we know who, allegedly?

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:01 am
by sussexpob
Not been said

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:24 am
by yuppie
England are unable to avoid negative headlines.

From the outside there seems to be a bit of a problem, even if the media is jumping onto the smallest things to amplify them. I wonder who was the recipient was of the beer on the head, please be Jimmy, please be Jimmy:)

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:07 am
by Arthur Crabtree
You wouldn't get much back on your bet.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:08 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Dr Cricket wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:In the A squad though. What was the incident?

poured a drink over a senior england player after an argument.


OK, this happened on this tour and was reported last night, I've just seen the story.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:37 pm
by Dr Cricket
Lol it was Anderson.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:38 pm
by sussexpob
Another youngster in the team who no doubt just didnt have a sense of humour..... funny that, there is a growing number of these people who dont.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:25 pm
by yuppie
Who will Anderson whinge to now?

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:26 pm
by mikesiva
They are drawn to pubs and trouble like moths to a flame.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:35 pm
by Making_Splinters
If this whole situation happened within the squad, and with only the ECBs choice guard on site, how is it even making the news?

It does feel that we're in for another repeat of the last tour where scapegoats were needed.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:58 pm
by Dr Cricket
Wonder which 2 players from the test team facing the sack, isn’t moeen Ali and won’t be anderson so wonder which 2 players the management don’t like about their drinking and off field issues.
Suspect it will be some of the newer guys but can’t really see the likes of Vince, stoneman etc being any trouble always thought the senior players were the trouble ones.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:03 pm
by Dr Cricket
Newman reporting 2 batsman in the test team/squad are playing for their futures in the rest of the last 3 test matches.
it isn't root, Cook or Ali/Foakes either.

the 6 that are not in trouble are Ali, Cook, Root, Woakes, foakes and Ball.

"There could be more like him. Bayliss feels badly let down by a minority of his players and there will be two batsmen at least playing for their international futures on the rest of this tour. Off-field behaviour will be top of the agenda when England come to pick their team for two Tests in New Zealand in the new year."

Newman making a good point here though which is surprising for him.

"But interestingly England have exonerated vice-captain Anderson from any blame for the incident even though it could be argued that he was in the wrong to be in that now infamous Perth bar in the early hours apparently having a row with Duckett. Could the senior players not have self-policed the evening?"

how are you making a strong example if Anderson is not taking any blame what so ever for the incident, he might be totally innocent and it was 100% Duckett but surely he should be punished even if a fine or what ever for being stupid enough to be in the bar and then did something that made duckett poor beer at him.

it is quite odd asking senior players to behave or not do anything stupid around beer and then when one of them does something stupid he gets away with it.
how is that going to make the senior players actually stop from doing anything stupid considering if they actually do something wrong they get away with it anyway.

At the very least Anderson should get a fine for his part in it and get a warning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricke ... rning.html


Anyway for the 2 batsman under pressure I am calling Bairstow and possibly Vince.

Can't see the likes of Stoneman, Malan being much of a drinkers, Bairstow would be interesting since he is a very important player for england, he does meet the requirement of a big player that been reported.
the others are not big enough and would probably get dropped without the drinking stuff anyway.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:11 pm
by sussexpob
he might be totally innocent and it was 100% Duckett but surely he should be punished


Can I make this quote the thing that appears on the bottom of all my posts? Gold dust

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:20 pm
by Dr Cricket
you can if you want lol.
TBH he could be fined for being in the wrong place in the wrong time, or just for being involved bit like in school where kids are having a fight over something small and the teacher just punishes both kids.
Doesn't make sense to let anderson off here and then state the senior players are not listening and are in denial of the problems surely the fact they are getting away with things means they are more likely not going to listen with what the management are saying.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:21 pm
by sussexpob
Making_Splinters wrote:If this whole situation happened within the squad, and with only the ECBs choice guard on site, how is it even making the news?

It does feel that we're in for another repeat of the last tour where scapegoats were needed.


Spot on, Splints