There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

What's buzzing in the world of cricket....

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:06 pm

dont rule out Leach for tests either...
2012 - ENG vs SA ODI series winner
2013 - US Open golf winner, WI vs PAK winner , ENG vs OZ ODI and T20 winner
2015- Open golf championship winner
2017 - OZ vs Pak odi'S, AUS vs NZ ODI, NZ vs SA Tests , WI vs PAK tests
2018 - NZ vs Pak t20 FL winner2018 - SA vs Ind test match fl winner US open golf FL [color=#0000FF] - [color=#FF0000]Open golf FL winner



Essex CCC county champions
andy
 
Posts: 17827
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Essex
Team(s) Supported: Essex CCC
West ham united
Sunrisers Hyderberad
England

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby m@tt » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:57 pm

In the pre-Pakistan interviews, Smith talked about how they wanted to move away from Moeen the spinner in Tests. So that would indicate that if he comes back, it's in the middle order rather than competing with Bess and Leach.

Neither is in brilliant form - Bess doesn't have many Championship wickets and Leach has been injured (broken thumb followed by a concussion).
Andy Flower wrote:This is going to test my coaching expertise. This is the worst case I've ever seen.
User avatar
m@tt
 
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:20 pm
Team(s) Supported: .
England and Warwickshire.

Also tend to follow any former/current/prospective England players.

606 Username: matt_h88

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:58 am

Bess will be selected for his batting ;)
2012 - ENG vs SA ODI series winner
2013 - US Open golf winner, WI vs PAK winner , ENG vs OZ ODI and T20 winner
2015- Open golf championship winner
2017 - OZ vs Pak odi'S, AUS vs NZ ODI, NZ vs SA Tests , WI vs PAK tests
2018 - NZ vs Pak t20 FL winner2018 - SA vs Ind test match fl winner US open golf FL [color=#0000FF] - [color=#FF0000]Open golf FL winner



Essex CCC county champions
andy
 
Posts: 17827
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Essex
Team(s) Supported: Essex CCC
West ham united
Sunrisers Hyderberad
England

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby alfie » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:24 am

Bess being "in possession" I'd imagine he will get the first match against India. Unfortunate for Leach that he got injured but it is not as if he bowled England to victory in NZ so I think he might have to wait and see how his county teammate fares.

Moeen did well against India last time but faces a bit of a task to get back in Tests at the moment : his batting has been such a dramatic letdown over the winter tours that I'm not sure he has much chance of a return before they head back to the subcontinent . Doing well in the white ball stuff and for the moment I think he'll have to be content with that.
alfie
 
Posts: 5058
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:26 am

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby sussexpob » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:32 am

Bess has played 3 county games since that Pakistan game, and hes conceded a lot of runs for not a lot of wickets. Average in the 60s zone since that Pakistan game. Like Crane, throwing a young spinner like this at an Indian team that eat up crap spinners is, for me, a big mistake. England need to go with Leach for me, bit more experience, and if they are to rate Bess as a serious future prospect, I think keeping him away from a series like this is a good option.
2010 French Open fantasy league guru 2010 Wimbledon fantasy league guru 2014 Masters golf fantasy guru 2015 Players Championship FL Guru 2016 Masters Golf Fantasy Guru

And a hat and bra to you too, my good sirs!
sussexpob
 
Posts: 26317
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:14 pm
Location: Asker, Norway
Team(s) Supported: Sussex and England Cricket, Vålerenga Fotball/FC Barcelona/Seagulls! ....
England and Norway at everything else

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:03 am

Lions team to play India A:
Cook Burns Gubbins Malan Pope Woakes Sam Curran Bess Fisher Leach Porter

Well this could be a competition between Bess and Leach, and maybe between Sam Curran and Woakes.
Cook will get to see his new opening partner in Burns or Gubbins as I don't think Jennings will last the summer.
Malan or Pope as well.
User avatar
Slipstream
 
Posts: 1238
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:36 pm

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:49 pm

Woakes is injured at the moment and has been left out of the T20/ODI series. So good news if he will be fit for this if a bit surprising if he is back playing for the Lions. I remember him playing at that level for many years without getting a chance to step up.

Bit of a slip back for Malan.
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 59041
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:24 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Woakes is injured at the moment and has been left out of the T20/ODI series. So good news if he will be fit for this if a bit surprising if he is back playing for the Lions. I remember him playing at that level for many years without getting a chance to step up.

Bit of a slip back for Malan.


Expect Woakes is getting a game here, as there is no other first class cricket.
Sports broadcasting media nut miscast as a hard-working family man. Or should that be the other way around?

2018 New Zealand v West Indies Combined, Afghanistan v Bangladesh T20s, England v Pakistan Tests, England v India T20s+ODIs & Sri Lanka v England Tests Australian Open Tennis, 6 Nations Rugby, Masters Golf, Premier League Football & French Open Tennis
2017 Premier League Football, French Open Tennis & Wimbledon Tennis
2016 South Africa v England ODIs, England v Sri Lanka Tests, County Championship Division 2 & Australia v New Zealand ODIs Australian Open Tennis, 6 Nations Rugby, Masters Golf, Premier League Football, Players Golf, US PGA Golf & US Open Tennis
2015 Indian Premier League, The Ashes & England v Australia ODIs Masters Golf, Premier League Football & US PGA Golf
2014 Australia v England ODIs 6 Nations Rugby, Premier League Football, Players Golf, Wimbledon Tennis, Open Golf & US Open Tennis
2013 Players Golf, Premier League Football, French Open Tennis, Open Golf & US PGA Golf
2012 New Zealand v Zimbabwe ODIs, Sri Lanka v England Tests Betting & WI vs NZ ODIs US Open Golf & Open Golf
2011 India v England ODIs & Bangladesh v Pakistan Combined Wimbledon Tennis
User avatar
ianp1970
 
Posts: 5716
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:54 pm
Team(s) Supported: England
Warwickshire
Rugby
Market Deeping

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:49 pm

Tomorrow Woakes is playing as a batman only for the Warks 2nd XI. After the Lions game I wonder if he will play for Warks on their cc game. Anderson and Broad will be playing for their counties. Think all the ODI players will be rested.

Coming back from injuries (all the bowling attack)

Anderson (shoulder)
Broad (ankle)
Woakes (knee)
Stokes (hamstring)
Leach ( broken thumb and then concussion)

Injured Overton, Roland-Jones, Finn, T Curran, Tongue, Garton, Mahmood, Topley.
User avatar
Slipstream
 
Posts: 1238
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:36 pm

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:14 am

Ed Smith National Selector
James Taylor, England selector
Bayliss selector

2 new scouts needed to replace Steve Rhodes and Taylor
User avatar
Slipstream
 
Posts: 1238
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:36 pm

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:04 am

Mysterious differentiation in the job titles.
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 59041
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby westoelad » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:16 pm

Woakes bowled a handful of overs in each inns and also scored an unbeaten century in the 4 th inns.
http://live.nvplay.com/ecb/#s8b18cc76-8 ... cbe40dd883
westoelad
 
Posts: 5954
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:26 pm

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:41 pm

Rashid has been recalled by England.

Moeen is back.

Jamie Porter is in the squad.

Sam Curran has retained his place.

Woakes is injured. Bess and Leach are out. Leach has been described as being 'short of bowling' even though he is currently playing in the CC and Rashid hasn't played a fc game all summer and I doubt he's bowled a spell of more than four overs this year. In fact Smith's logic would fit in well on the close your eyes and think of England thread.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... t#comments
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 59041
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby GG - Amir Sohail » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:53 pm

Can't help but feel Leach and Bess should be in for Ali and Rashid. At what point is Smith just going to copy the ODI team in tests.
"As soon as you decide to cut down on your drinking, you have a drinking problem" Don Draper (Mad Men)

Fantasy Leagues:
IPL 4
2011 British Open
2011 Pak vs SL Tests
2011-12 SA vs SL Tests
2012 SL vs Pak ODIs
2012 Eng vs Aus ODIs
2013 SA vs NZ combined
2013 Oz vs WI ODIs
2014 Big Bash League
2013-14 Premier League [external]
2014 WI-Bang combined
2018 Bangladesh Tri Series
2018 Football World Cup
2018 England vs India Tests
User avatar
GG - Amir Sohail
 
Posts: 5672
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:12 am
Location: Up and down the M4

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:24 pm

GG - Amir Sohail wrote:Can't help but feel Leach and Bess should be in for Ali and Rashid. At what point is Smith just going to copy the ODI team in tests.

Sooner rather than later I hope.
budgetmeansbudget
 
Posts: 16510
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:47 pm
Location: Poole
Team(s) Supported: Hampshire CCC
AFC Bournemouth
Livingston FC
Havant & Waterlooville FC
Poole Town FC
Chicago Bears
Poole Pirates

PreviousNext

Return to International Cricket

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests