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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:24 am

Daily Mail had a story Broad isn't going to SL.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:15 am

diteras wrote:No openers no top order players at all? no surprises.

There is absolutely no reason to play as a no 1,2,3, in the modern context unless yu are a player with enough about you to change your approach (avoid using the word technique here please)

I am sure no armchair experts appreciate the self management that is required to gradate in cricket- it is an unreal quality and that is why there are arguably only three players in the world capable of doing it to a high standard. (don't have to name them do I?) So everyone else relies upon repetition repetition etc etc until an approach to the game becomes a natural one- that's the thing about natural it's...........natural?? So then you cant change it unless you are one of the aforementioned big trio of demi- genius'

Either you pay cricketers at the sub prime level enough to make boring the boobies off everyone an attractive prospect, or you settle for the dross, I have, in equal measures, a high regard for Burns' achievements these last few years and an absolute mistrust of a methodology which will have the likes of Cummins ,Starc and any other world class bowler salivating. He is not the answer - unless the question is 'how not to.....''...Lets face it he gets the gig because he is the last man standing

In conclusion (if you get this far) pick the best XI test class players and ....I dunno..draw lots.? Sure, Moen ain't ideal at no 3 but he is about as good as we have, in the country, so we better hope he can just do a job, because there is, literally , no one else even approaching capable.

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:38 am

diteras wrote:
In conclusion (if you get this far) pick the best XI test class players and ....I dunno..draw lots.? Sure, Moen ain't ideal at no 3 but he is about as good as we have, in the country, so we better hope he can just do a job, because there is, literally , no one else even approaching capable.

we could try playing cricket in the English summer, rather than half of it in the very early spring, followed by the rest of it just as the Aussie domestic season is about to start.

Little wonder most batsmen don't gain the experience required to give them a half decent chance of being successful at test level.... and this is particularly noticeable with top order batsmen.... something I think can be laid firmly at the door of the ECB

looking at the scores for the last round of county championship matches with several first innings totals of about 100, it's hard to see how any young batsman can lay claim to a place on a winter tour, let alone be successful on it. Says something when Keaton Jennings can have such a poor summer, and with no credit in the bank, yet be absolutely in the best position to be assured of an openers berth in SL
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:56 am

Durhamfootman wrote:
diteras wrote:
In conclusion (if you get this far) pick the best XI test class players and ....I dunno..draw lots.? Sure, Moen ain't ideal at no 3 but he is about as good as we have, in the country, so we better hope he can just do a job, because there is, literally , no one else even approaching capable.

we could try playing cricket in the English summer, rather than half of it in the very early spring, followed by the rest of it just as the Aussie domestic season is about to start.

Little wonder most batsmen don't gain the experience required to give them a half decent chance of being successful at test level.... and this is particularly noticeable with top order batsmen.... something I think can be laid firmly at the door of the ECB

looking at the scores for the last round of county championship matches with several first innings totals of about 100, it's hard to see how any young batsman can lay claim to a place on a winter tour, let alone be successful on it. Says something when Keaton Jennings can have such a poor summer, and with no credit in the bank, yet be absolutely in the best position to be assured of an openers berth in SL


Remember Jennings playing spin on the Lions tour to West Indies. In fact none of them could play spin.

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby diteras » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:05 am

my stats the last season I made up the numbers after I had announced in 2007 I could no longer react to the ball and my shoulder refused to bowl. So pressed into embarrassing myself 2013
matches 5
catches 0
fielding errors . not recorded thankfully
innings 3
not out- 3
runs against (spin-7)
runs against pace -4 (edge through slips to vacant third man - me too Keaton)

av 11 :clap

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conclusion - I would be more use than Jennings -and cheaper too

pity I wont fly. :scared

this is the last. Enjoy the winter - just remembered a tour where Fred and Hoggard were toiling in :SL: SL with the speed gun barely touching 76 mph. :hide Good luck Mr Curran :horse :horse

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:30 pm

diteras wrote:
this is the last. Enjoy the winter

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby KipperJohn » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:34 am

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/201 ... s-nullify/

Not for the first time some thinly veiled criticism from Bell of the County schedule - he said last week we won’t produce another Cook with the current format and pitches.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:14 pm

England's squad to tour SL for the ODIs.

Eoin Morgan (Middlesex, capt), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Tom Curran (Surrey), Liam Dawson (Hampshire), Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire), Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Olly Stone (Warwickshire), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham)

Both Currans, Mark Wood included. Stone will cover for Plunkett on the first week of the tour as he has a dentists appointment.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:16 pm

No Willey, but Woakes is back. Dawson is a pitch specific selection.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Daily Mail had a story Broad isn't going to SL.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/201 ... -consider/

Also talk of Roy for the Test team. It would be funny if Roy was picked and Burns omitted.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:48 pm

Slipstream wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Daily Mail had a story Broad isn't going to SL.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/201 ... -consider/

Also talk of Roy for the Test team. It would be funny if Roy was picked and Burns omitted.

Roy is already 'in the loop'

if he wasn't being charged with bringing the game into disrepute, Hales might have had more chance than Burns too
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:21 pm

Burns, Denly and Stone get first call ups for the Tests in SL. Leach is recalled. Only two openers in the squad.


Burns/Jennings/Root/Denly/Pope/Stokes
Moeen/Leach/Rashid
Buttler/Bairstow
Anderson/Broad/Woakes/Stone/Curran
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby ianp1970 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:29 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Burns, Denly and Stone get first call ups for the Tests in SL. Leach is recalled. Only two openers in the squad.


Burns/Jennings/Root/Denly/Pope/Stokes
Moeen/Leach/Rashid
Buttler/Bairstow
Anderson/Broad/Woakes/Stone/Curran


So a projected team something akin to:

Jennings
Burns/Denly
Ali/Denly
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali/Curran/Rashid/Woakes
Leach/Rashid
Broad
Anderson

with Stone the spare paceman?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:45 pm

Denly's not an opener. Bit of a strange choice.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby ianp1970 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:09 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Denly's not an opener. Bit of a strange choice.


Very...

Similar type of selection to Zafar Ansari?
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