m@tt wrote:SaintPowelly wrote:Greatest all-rounder ever in my eyes ( sorry Sobers )
Definitely seems the right time to go now though, enjoy your retirement Jacques.
The Dravid of all-rounders? Goes about his brilliance quietly, is possibly a tad under appreciated, and doesn't stand out as much as flashier players (Sobers being flashy, as well as brilliant).
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mikesiva wrote:m@tt wrote:SaintPowelly wrote:Greatest all-rounder ever in my eyes ( sorry Sobers )
Definitely seems the right time to go now though, enjoy your retirement Jacques.
The Dravid of all-rounders? Goes about his brilliance quietly, is possibly a tad under appreciated, and doesn't stand out as much as flashier players (Sobers being flashy, as well as brilliant).
I don't quite agree that Kallis was a greater allrounder than Sobers, though....
I was always taught that you subtract your bowling average from your batting average to get the statistical assessment of how great an allrounder is, and on that basis Sobers just edges Kallis.
Kallis, batting 55.12, bowling 32.53 = 22.59
Sobers, batting 57.78, bowling 34.03 = 23.75
But no other allrounder in the history of Test cricket comes close on that statistical assessment....
Arthur Crabtree wrote:In recent years he seemed to do a lot of bowling wide of off stump to keep the runs down, allbeit with a good bouncer. I hated watching him bowl because he was so defensive, and it killed the spectacle, though to good affect for South Africa. Certainly he mainly bowled in that mode on his last England tour.
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