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Making_Splinters wrote:

clubcricketeradi wrote:

Making_Splinters wrote:

clubcricketeradi wrote:I am surprised that Warne was in contention for that award.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/1998/ ... 97968.html

Two of Australia's greatest cricketers - bowler Shane Warne and batsman Mark Waugh - have been involved in a betting scandal that has plunged the game into of one of its greatest crises of the modern era.

The Australian Cricket Board confirmed last night that it had fined Waugh and Warne for providing information to an Indian bookmaker during Australia's tour of Sri Lanka in 1994.

Slightly overstated.

Personally i don't like players who maintain a contact with bookies. I hope that what i read is not true.

It's completely true, however, to describe it as one of the greatest crises of the modern era is hyperbole.

Yes, i agree that worse things in that criteria have happened in cricket.Especially the spot fixing in test series in England (Salman/Asif/Amir) where they did more than passing information to bookies, IPL spot fixing and some reported match fixing etc.

clubcricketeradi wrote:

Making_Splinters wrote:

clubcricketeradi wrote:

Making_Splinters wrote:

clubcricketeradi wrote:I am surprised that Warne was in contention for that award.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/1998/ ... 97968.html

Two of Australia's greatest cricketers - bowler Shane Warne and batsman Mark Waugh - have been involved in a betting scandal that has plunged the game into of one of its greatest crises of the modern era.

The Australian Cricket Board confirmed last night that it had fined Waugh and Warne for providing information to an Indian bookmaker during Australia's tour of Sri Lanka in 1994.

Slightly overstated.

Personally i don't like players who maintain a contact with bookies. I hope that what i read is not true.

It's completely true, however, to describe it as one of the greatest crises of the modern era is hyperbole.

Yes, i agree that worse things in that criteria have happened in cricket.Especially the spot fixing in test series in England (Salman/Asif/Amir) where they did more than passing information to bookies, IPL spot fixing and some reported match fixing etc.

Warne's transgressions, while not to be written off, did not affect the game, or cricket in any way. It just made some people some money and hence has been largely forgotten about, perhaps understandably.

Getting the thread some what back on track. Kallis is unargubaly the greatest cricketer of his generation, no one comes close to him when we actually use the term cricketer holistically.

Tendulkar may have made more runs, Warne taken more wickets but over 13,000 test runs at 55 and nearly 300 wickets at 32 are the statistics or arguably the greatest cricketer ever, not just of his generation.

Making_Splinters wrote:
Warne's transgressions, while not to be written off, did not affect the game, or cricket in any way. It just made some people some money and hence has been largely forgotten about, perhaps understandably.

Getting the thread some what back on track. Kallis is unargubaly the greatest cricketer of his generation, no one comes close to him when we actually use the term cricketer holistically.

Tendulkar may have made more runs, Warne taken more wickets but over 13,000 test runs at 55 and nearly 300 wickets at 32 are the statistics or arguably the greatest cricketer ever, not just of his generation.

Apart from Kallis all round records over a big career, he was superbly fit cricketer.Even in his last years he was bowling around 140 kph, that too after suffering some shoulder injury a couple of years back and some other injuries throughout his career.I haven't seen any other cricketer take as much workload as him and be as successful.His all round records and fitness is unmatchable.

Making_Splinters wrote:...Getting the thread some what back on track. Kallis is unargubaly the greatest cricketer of his generation, no one comes close to him when we actually use the term cricketer holistically.

Tendulkar may have made more runs, Warne taken more wickets but over 13,000 test runs at 55 and nearly 300 wickets at 32 are the statistics or arguably the greatest cricketer ever, not just of his generation.

Yes, whatever cricinfo may say, and forgetting the rather meaningless "generation" thing, no one has had a more impressive international career than Kallis since Sobers retired.

Not even Boycott.

clubcricketeradi wrote:It's completely true, however, to describe it as one of the greatest crises of the modern era is hyperbole.

The bookie incident reflects badly on Warne, and the Aussie board who tried to bury the affair. Match fixing is the biggest enemy of any sport, and while Warne didn't do that, he did engage with an illegal betting group. But the other biggest scandal of our era on the pitch, in my opinion, is the allowance of some bowlers to throw. In my view, Warne is the biggest wicket taker in Test history (and a successful ODI player) and is an obvious candidate for the player of this era. But if one of the categories was who has played the game without damaging it, then Warne has to lose ground.

In an era when no one player dominated, the selection of one individual is fairly pointless. SRT is a good choice among many.

I guess cricinfo chose the best bowler, the best batsman and best all rounder and asked the jury to select the best cricketer of generation.

What about the best WK? Matt Prior anyone?

braveneutral wrote:What about the best WK? Matt Prior anyone?

He was in for the best batsman award

Actually Gilly would be in the top 10 over that period. Players that is.

Dr Robert wrote:

braveneutral wrote:What about the best WK? Matt Prior anyone?

He was in for the best batsman award

Actually Gilly would be in the top 10 over that period. Players that is.

Must have been a tough one between him and Tendulkar.