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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:34 am

Dr Robert wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:From the Mail:

" England will be 24/7 for Peter Moores ... not just a job, but a passion "

If that's true then he's definitely the wrong man for the job as in my experience such people expect others to see it the same and are less than understanding of those who don't.


Don't know about that? Some may, but a man with a half open mind, will see the differences.


With that attitude it seems he's the same man that sent his squad back out onto the field for extra training at the end of a ODI v NZ. He already has a reputation of talking as if he's giving a presentation at a corporate seminar that has been ridiculed by many in the media but must have impressed Downton who's just fresh from an executive job in the city.

Here's a quote from another arrogant individual:

"Peter Moores can impose himself on a young, ambitious England squad, writes BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew

Impose himself is not the way to build a team.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby D/L » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:40 am

It is amazing, the conclusions that may be drawn from little snippets of others' words (often misreported and taken out of context) in the media.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby sussexpob » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:05 am

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sussexpob wrote:Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.



the way that Farbrace has left sri lanka is disgusting, and has left the sri lankan side in a bit of a mess going into a tough tour of england and ireland..



I had read somewhere that he had not been paid is full wages, and that he was only on a 6 month probabtionary contract, and SL did the same thing to Yorkshire when they got him. So SL cant be to angry


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Was a big blow to lose Farby, but at the same time a man of his calibre was never going to be a County 2nd XI coach for long.


Sri Lanka were not required to pay a severance deal to Yorkshire based on their own agreement with the county. Instead, Sri Lanka arranged and hosted Yorkshire on their Sri Lankan pre-season tour, footing all the financial impact of the tour and arrangements under the severance agreement.

So yes, they spent a hell of a lot of money putting up Yorkshire's Tour in order to get him, and by all accounts people in their board are furious they spent a large amount of their budget getting him in for nothing.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby sussexpob » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:07 am

D/L wrote:It is amazing, the conclusions that may be drawn from little snippets of others' words (often misreported and taken out of context) in the media.


Indeed. Especially when those people making the articles are fueled by bias against the old regime, and are trying to paint Moores as a successful appointment.

The bottom line is we have Moores now, we dont have KP, and its time to move and and rate Moores on his performance this summer. Of course, if he fails then questions will be asked and have to be answered
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Albondiga » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:47 am

It's my experience that a man who could not do a job first time around cannot do the same job second time around -------- we shall see.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Alviro Patterson » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:06 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Alviro Patterson wrote:
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sussexpob wrote:Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.



the way that Farbrace has left sri lanka is disgusting, and has left the sri lankan side in a bit of a mess going into a tough tour of england and ireland..



I had read somewhere that he had not been paid is full wages, and that he was only on a 6 month probabtionary contract, and SL did the same thing to Yorkshire when they got him. So SL cant be to angry


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Was a big blow to lose Farby, but at the same time a man of his calibre was never going to be a County 2nd XI coach for long.


Sri Lanka were not required to pay a severance deal to Yorkshire based on their own agreement with the county. Instead, Sri Lanka arranged and hosted Yorkshire on their Sri Lankan pre-season tour, footing all the financial impact of the tour and arrangements under the severance agreement.

So yes, they spent a hell of a lot of money putting up Yorkshire's Tour in order to get him, and by all accounts people in their board are furious they spent a large amount of their budget getting him in for nothing.


and the ECB have foot Yorkshire's pre-season bill as part of the compensation package.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu May 01, 2014 9:26 am

Cook sacks Gooch as batting coach, I hope Saker goes next but he has only recently got a new contract.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby D/L » Thu May 01, 2014 10:35 am

Can the captain sack a member of the coaching staff?
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu May 01, 2014 10:48 am

Seems odd for the easy going Cook to make that decision.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu May 01, 2014 10:50 am

Can't understand why that is his decision to make. Surely someone thinks it would help if it was made to look that way.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu May 01, 2014 11:09 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Can't understand why that is his decision to make. Surely someone thinks it would help if it was made to look that way.


Maybe a case of 'don't shoot the messenger'.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu May 01, 2014 11:14 am

The statement from Gooch looks purely resigned to make Cook look like a tough cookie. Maybe Gooch has just had enough, and he's doing one last favour for his mate.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu May 01, 2014 11:20 am

Thorpe to replace Gooch?
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby sussexpob » Thu May 01, 2014 11:27 am

Dr Robert wrote:Thorpe to replace Gooch?


Hasn't he already been working with the OD batting?
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu May 01, 2014 11:31 am

Seems to be some doubt that Thorpe will want to be on the road so much.
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