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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby sussexpob » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:37 pm

Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:38 pm

Looking at the Lancashire team, Moores must be so grateful to Paul Downton for offering an escape route. At least when "the inexperienced" Giles left Warks he left the team in good condition.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby KipperJohn » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:14 pm

Reading some quotes from Cook and Farbrace I'm beginning to wonder if England are going to turn into an old boys reunion club.

A settled 'all mates together' squad won't necessarily win matches - someone needs to take them out of their comfort zone - oh he's gone!
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby D/L » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:13 pm

Better "all mates together" than a bloody great fly in the ointment. Yes, he's gone. Not before time and let's be grateful.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby andy » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:58 pm

sussexpob wrote:Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.



the way that Farbrace has left sri lanka is disgusting, and has left the sri lankan side in a bit of a mess going into a tough tour of england and ireland..
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Slipstream » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:05 am

The selectors' job should be a full time one. Are Newell, Fraser and Whitaker going to be able to cover all the county games when Newall and Fraser are coaches of their county. Do they expect to only watch players playing in games against their county?

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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby yuppie » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:08 am

cricketfan90 wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.



the way that Farbrace has left sri lanka is disgusting, and has left the sri lankan side in a bit of a mess going into a tough tour of england and ireland..



I had read somewhere that he had not been paid is full wages, and that he was only on a 6 month probabtionary contract, and SL did the same thing to Yorkshire when they got him. So SL cant be to angry
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:44 am

I think it's a bit disappointing Farbrace turned his back on Sri Lanka after they gave him an opportunity in international cricket. I'd guess the probationary period was there in case either party found the job didn't suit them, rather than being an escape route should they get a better offer.

This is a new role, and I'd guess he's there to give Moores time off, on the Pietersen principle; that the schedule of international cricket is too intense for a single person to be available for all games.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby D/L » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:20 am

Strange to see the words "Pietersen" and "principle" in the same sentence, let alone next to each other. Plenty of players, of course, make themselves available for all games and many coaches have been in charge for all the formats.

Sri Lanka cannot reasonably complain if someone whose services they had failed to secure moves on to another job.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby braveneutral » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:45 am

D/L wrote:Strange to see the words "Pietersen" and "principle" in the same sentence, let alone next to each other. Plenty of players, of course, make themselves available for all games and many coaches have been in charge for all the formats.

Sri Lanka cannot reasonably complain if someone whose services they had failed to secure moves on to another job.

I don't think they had failed to secure his services? Regardless of whether he was in a probationary period or not, he would still be under contract?
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby D/L » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:16 am

braveneutral wrote:
D/L wrote:Strange to see the words "Pietersen" and "principle" in the same sentence, let alone next to each other. Plenty of players, of course, make themselves available for all games and many coaches have been in charge for all the formats.

Sri Lanka cannot reasonably complain if someone whose services they had failed to secure moves on to another job.

I don't think they had failed to secure his services? Regardless of whether he was in a probationary period or not, he would still be under contract?

I don't know all the details, bn. I'm just assuming that no contract has been broken here. Perhaps the ECB have bought out any remaining period if there was one. This would have to have been agreed with the authorities in Sri Lanka, though.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby braveneutral » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:38 am

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D/L wrote:Strange to see the words "Pietersen" and "principle" in the same sentence, let alone next to each other. Plenty of players, of course, make themselves available for all games and many coaches have been in charge for all the formats.

Sri Lanka cannot reasonably complain if someone whose services they had failed to secure moves on to another job.

I don't think they had failed to secure his services? Regardless of whether he was in a probationary period or not, he would still be under contract?

I don't know all the details, bn. I'm just assuming that no contract has been broken here. Perhaps the ECB have bought out any remaining period if there was one. This would have to have been agreed with the authorities in Sri Lanka, though.

Yes perhaps. From my understanding he resigned knowing that he was going to get this and the frustrations directed at him are that he upped and left as opposed to any contractual issue I suppose.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Alviro Patterson » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:53 am

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cricketfan90 wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Interesting that Farbrace has joined as "assistant coach", whatever that means. I do like the idea that a guy who has won more One Day Competitions in two months in charge of Sri Lanka than anyone in England should be brought in as an assistant.



the way that Farbrace has left sri lanka is disgusting, and has left the sri lankan side in a bit of a mess going into a tough tour of england and ireland..



I had read somewhere that he had not been paid is full wages, and that he was only on a 6 month probabtionary contract, and SL did the same thing to Yorkshire when they got him. So SL cant be to angry


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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:51 am

From the Mail:

" England will be 24/7 for Peter Moores ... not just a job, but a passion "

If that's true then he's definitely the wrong man for the job as in my experience such people expect others to see it the same and are less than understanding of those who don't.
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Re: Is Peter Moores the right man for the England Job

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:12 am

hopeforthebest wrote:From the Mail:

" England will be 24/7 for Peter Moores ... not just a job, but a passion "

If that's true then he's definitely the wrong man for the job as in my experience such people expect others to see it the same and are less than understanding of those who don't.


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