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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:44 pm

He was vindicated over Sananayake.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Someone on another site implies Ojha throws and so it would be a bad time to bring him back. I'm quite sensitive on this, but I didn't notice.

People seem to think that throwing should be allowed as it makes the game more interesting.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:52 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Someone on another site implies Ojha throws and so it would be a bad time to bring him back. I'm quite sensitive on this, but I didn't notice.

People seem to think that throwing should be allowed as it makes the game more interesting.


Ojha is 50/50.
Many indian don't like his action but if he did get tested he would probably be allowed should be within 15 degrees since many people can't even tell he chucks.

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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby GarlicJam » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:16 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:I see Ian Gould is one of the umpires who reported Ajmal, I can just imagine the comments flying around in the sub continent after this. SL mentioned him specifically after Sananayake was reported. Bruce Oxenford was the other umpire so two non Asian umpires?

When was the last time an Asian umpire reported a suspect action?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby D/L » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:18 am

Warwickshire pace bowler, Gordon, has an action that looks a little dodgy from time to time.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:00 pm

Sananayake has been to Oz to have his action sorted out. The report to if it is fixed is made by the same team who spent the time fixing his action. No conflict of interest there at all.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby sussexpob » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:13 pm

GarlicJam wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:I see Ian Gould is one of the umpires who reported Ajmal, I can just imagine the comments flying around in the sub continent after this. SL mentioned him specifically after Sananayake was reported. Bruce Oxenford was the other umpire so two non Asian umpires?

When was the last time an Asian umpire reported a suspect action?


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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:13 am

Zimbabwe's Propser Utseya is the latest to be reported.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Mr.Cricket » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:07 pm

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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Mr.Cricket » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:31 pm

Can some one explain me the 15 Degree rule clearly?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby D/L » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:44 pm

This is the BBC's description of the ICC "fudge" that saved all their jobs during the Muralitharan fiasco, MC...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/rules_and_equipment/4404874.stm
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby hopeforthebest » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:50 pm

Mr.Cricket wrote:Can some one explain me the 15 Degree rule clearly?


As far I understand it the word flex means bent ( taken from a dictionary). So the ruling means you can bowl with your arm bent no more than 15 degrees but it must not straighten as that would be throwing the ball.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby D/L » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:49 pm

To avoid any confusion, in this context, "flexing" means straightening. The ICC ruling is that the arm must not undergo more than 15° of straightening between the moment it reaches the level of the shoulder and delivery.

At the point of delivery, most bowlers' arms are straight as it is very difficult to propel the ball otherwise and most straightening takes place in the bowler's "gather", that is in the delivery stride and well before the arm reaches the level of the shoulder.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby GarlicJam » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:51 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Mr.Cricket wrote:Can some one explain me the 15 Degree rule clearly?


As far I understand it the word flex means bent ( taken from a dictionary). So the ruling means you can bowl with your arm bent no more than 15 degrees but it must not straighten as that would be throwing the ball.

As I understand it (and that is not saying much), you can bowl the ball with you arm bent at 90 degrees, or even worse, just so long and the change in angle (flex) during any stage of the delivery is no greater than 15 degrees.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby hopeforthebest » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:07 pm

verb
verb: flex; 3rd person present: flexes; past tense: flexed; past participle: flexed; gerund or present participle: flexing; adjective: flexed

1.
(with reference to a limb or joint) bend or become bent.

synonyms: bend, curve, crook, hook, cock, angle, kink, buckle##



flex

vb angle, bend, contract, crook, curve, tighten
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