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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:03 am

Zimbabwe's Malcolm Waller reported.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:21 pm

Ajmal has had his new action tested. It's an improvement on the last test but he's still over the 15 degrees limit.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby meninblue » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:23 pm

Shocked that nobody has reported Ambati. He throws 100% of the deliveries he bowls. Never seen such a frequent chucker bowler.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:49 pm

Ajmal reporting that most of his deliveries are now bowled legally. Should he be allowed back for the World Cup, does he get the same waiting period for another report or is he instantly banned from bowling?
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:01 am

Just heard that Hafeez has been tested but can bowl in this final Test. Didn't know he'd been reported but it was not before time.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby andy » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:02 am

clubcricketeradi wrote:Shocked that nobody has reported Ambati. He throws 100% of the deliveries he bowls. Never seen such a frequent chucker bowler.



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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby rich1uk » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:25 am

hopeforthebest wrote:Just heard that Hafeez has been tested but can bowl in this final Test. Didn't know he'd been reported but it was not before time.


hes been banned from bowling now
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:12 am

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:Just heard that Hafeez has been tested but can bowl in this final Test. Didn't know he'd been reported but it was not before time.


hes been banned from bowling now


Finally. He's been a chucker all the time I;ve seen him.
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Postby andy » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:22 pm

glad he's been called....will Pakistan have any offspinners left going into the world cup lol..??
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:29 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:glad he's been called....will Pakistan have any offspinners left going into the world cup lol..??

Ajmal will probably go. In unofficial tests, all of his deliveries are now under 15 degrees. Will have an ICC test soon i think.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:55 pm

Is it just the case that any bowler trying to bowl anything other than an offie, a leggie or an arm ball can do so without throwing?

It seems to be the case now.

Has it always been thus?

Is it even possible to legitimately bowl variations, and has the 15 degree thing just muddied the waters sufficiently that any low quality spinner thinks he can gain some sort of advantage by pushing the boundaries, and bowling things that he simply hasn't got the skill to bowl, but does think he either can get away with, or ought to get away with, or doesn't understand the difference between what is bowling and what is throwing.

I confess that I now just assume that any delivery, that isn't a stock delivery or an arm ball, is being thrown.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby shankycricket » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:54 am

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cricketfan90 wrote:glad he's been called....will Pakistan have any offspinners left going into the world cup lol..??

Ajmal will probably go. In unofficial tests, all of his deliveries are now under 15 degrees. Will have an ICC test soon i think.

Can they risk directly him for the WC without testing his new action in an actual international match to see how effective it is? Highly doubt it'll be anywhere near as effective. Didn't he say he has some disability arising out of an accident that prevents him from bowling within 15 degrees? And he must have had to fundamentally change his action to bring it down from 40 to 15? Its not a minor tweak. At this age, after chucking for more than 15 years, to suddenly bring the flex down by 25 degrees is not gonna be easy at all. He is not getting any younger and a complete liability in the other 2 departments. I don't see how they can pick him without testing his action in an actual international match.

Pak have enough spin bowling talent in my opinion not to take such a huge gamble. Hafeez is arguably a much bigger miss. Without him, the team looks horribly unbalanced, as we saw in the ODI series against Aus. Afridi at 7 is something that would have most decent bowlers salivating. Thats at least 3 places too high for him. Maybe they could pick both Hamnad Azam (once touted as the next Razzaq) and Fawad Alam (no idea why he's been dropped) in the top 7 and they could share the 10 overs with Younus Khan's part time medium pace as backup in a worst case scenario. Apparently the likes of Shehzad, Haris Sohail and Shafiq have been working on their bowling too. Its all a bit messy really.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:04 am

Senanayake is in the SL 30. Feels like revenge of the chuckers. Him and Ajmal were the worst offenders.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby dan08 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:51 am

Senanayake and Williamson have been cleared.
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Re: Does he throw or not throw, that is the question.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:40 pm

Senanayake's action wasn't at all like a bowling action, he just threw the ball. It must be a whole new action.
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