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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby sussexpob » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:21 am

If its any consolation, my wife loved her trip to Lords when I took her, but this was in large part down to the fact that she found somewhere selling gin. I never quite got her into cricket, but she did enjoy sitting in the sunshine drinking gin for 6 hours.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:16 am

sussexpob wrote:As for other points, it seems the expectation is for cheap tickets, with great views, and surrounded by like minded people who enjoy the game in the same environment as you want. Maybe deep down, its that people dont actually like going, or have had bad experiences.


Wages have been stagnant for ten years so we may be thinking the prices haven't changed much, and the numbers might be familiar, but it doesn't make the tickets any more affordable. Perhaps more-so outside the south-east. £70 for a standard ticket still looks a lot (and especially if you would go for more than one day, plus the usual add ons).

But yes, going to see the present England side isn't that attractive for many long term supporters, and quite remote for a younger generation. They have shed fans without attracting new ones (to Tests) I'm hoping it changes, as following cricket was something I hoped to have more time for in retirement. And I don't see the game thriving generally in the UK without a supportable national side.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:17 am

Dr Cricket wrote:TBH if I was in charge of ECB I think I would just give cheap tickets or give always to British Asian clubs and members and hopefully integrate them and get them into England grounds.
insane to have a market of British Asian that love cricket, yet don't buy tickets for england or english county games.


Not a bad idea.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:19 am

Dr Cricket wrote:it really gets on my nerves when people say I shouldn't support or talk about england.


Why do they think that?

Historical resentment?

Fan rivalry?

Just this present side or supporting England as a concept?
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Dr Cricket » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:27 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
Dr Cricket wrote:it really gets on my nerves when people say I shouldn't support or talk about england.


Why do they think that?

Historical resentment?

Fan rivalry?

Just this present side or supporting England as a concept?

Supporting england as a concept in cricket.
it is fine in any other sport barring cricket.
do wonder if that is partly a reason for why Cricket just doesn't have the Asian supporting England or the counties system.

Do think Fan rivalry plays a part though, one guy on twitter said it just isn't possible to support 2 teams especially in a small teams based league.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Dr Cricket » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:32 am

Reports are that about 10,000 tickets got sold in the last 2 days which is a lot by the way.
wonder if people are just not buying tickets up front anymore.
in recent times I just usually brought test match tickets few days before the event.

Don't blame them since I am very picky on which days I go to and it is very based on the weather and the match situation.

so guessing people are moving on with the times and I be frank test cricket isn't that great to watch in england anymore especially on day 1-3.
We seen a lot of boring drab days in recent times, no real excitement like the cricket been in the sub c lately add in the boring england test team and it isn't a great advertisement to buy tickets 3-4 months before it.

Do wonder when Australia and to a lesser extent england, I find the pitches in england to be dull but the ball does kind of make it up for it and make things happen but if they used kookabura the test matches in england would be awful.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby sussexpob » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:38 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Why do they think that?

Historical resentment?

Fan rivalry?

Just this present side or supporting England as a concept?


From my own perspective, I think as an immigrant you tend to embrace parts of your heritage that have strong cultural meaning. As an example, I could live in Norway for 50 years and adopt everything, but if England played Norway in a world cup final in football, I am going to become the most English person you'd ever met for a day. India has its own proud heritage of cricket, and I guess that to many that is a main part of keeping hold of that identity.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:29 pm

Dr Cricket wrote:Reports are that about 10,000 tickets got sold in the last 2 days which is a lot by the way.
wonder if people are just not buying tickets up front anymore.

perhaps they are waiting to see what the weather is doing

or hoping for a half price ticket sale
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:00 pm

sussexpob wrote:£21 for one corner of the ground compared to £56 for half the ground (where most of the empty seats are) is not the best of comparisons

If these were the only handful of cheap tickets in the ground, then if price mattered, they'd be the first sold. They have been, so the idea people wont pay loads of money to go isnt well established.


Like you said, those £21 seats are in the no alcohol section and are not par for the course. Some people like to have a quiet drink or two at the cricket, but are paying more than double for the privlege.

Alviro Patterson wrote:No India test in the North of England neither, looks like i'll stick to T20 Blast and the County Championship then.

Didnt you recently fly to NZ via Taiwan when England were there? The 60 miles from Leeds to Nottingham in comparison is a bridge too far? The Barmy Army took 10,000-15,000 to the last Sydney test depending on where you look. The Australia tourist board think they spend near 15,000AUD a person on these trips on average.

So people are happy travelling 26 hours on a plane, spending their life savings, to attend one match as far away is basically physically possible, but when it comes to an hour in a car and £21 quid, this is too much.

It doesnt make much sense. Other sports are doing it. The football spending league shows you how much people are spending. Expecting a cricket fan to spend £50 quid on a ticket is hardly revolutionary.


Certainly does not make sense. There is a difference between watching cricket abroad as part of a pre-planned, extensive trip and going to a day at the cricket from home. For example some England fans who watched in New Zealand did so by accident rather than design, as an extension of their travels around the Far East, just happen to be in New Zealand on Working Holiday Visas or just getting some winter sun and warmth. One lad from Northants I got to chatting to whilst staying in Paihia (not BN unfortunately) - a casual cricket fan, not aware England were touring New Zealand but happened to be in Auckland during the Day/Night test. He was surprised when I told him general admission for the Day/Night test was approx £18.50, said he had a look at going to a test match at Lords or The Oval whilst he lived in London, but was put off with the £70-£100 price mark.

If only it took me 1hr to get to Trent Bridge, try closer to 3hrs by car or 5hrs by public transport from door to turnstile. Add 7.5hrs being at the ground and it is a long day. Not having an India test match in the North of England is alienating half of Yorkshire, the North-West and the North-East.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:09 pm

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Dr Cricket wrote:Reports are that about 10,000 tickets got sold in the last 2 days which is a lot by the way.
wonder if people are just not buying tickets up front anymore.

perhaps they are waiting to see what the weather is doing

or hoping for a half price ticket sale


Combined with Edgbaston holding 25,000, there is no real need to book months in advance unless if you want the best seats.

18,000 for Days 1 & 2 is a very good turnout regardless of opposition. That would more than fill Trent Bridge, Headingley and Sophia Gardens.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby ianp1970 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:41 pm

Listening to TMS today - they were saying you could buy a ticket to get in after tea for £20, or pay £29 for general admission at 11:00 :facepalm

Not exactly helping is it?
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Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:44 pm

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what's daft, is that everyone with half a brain had a pretty good idea of what was likely to happen. Pity the ECB have always struggled in the half a brain dept
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:54 pm

14 years without Free to Air English cricket is an awful long time and it is having an impact even at grassroot level in terms of participation. Just showing 100 ball matches and the occasional England T20 is not enough, there needs to be some shared coverage 50 over and red ball cricket. There is nothing stopping the BBC or ITV showing day long matches on their platforms, I mean if they can show every FIFA World Cup matches, they can show a days cricket even if on Red Button or ITV4.
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Re: Attendances at Test/ ODI Matches

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:34 am

ITV had no problem showing 8 hrs of IPL.
biggest issues is cost and production.
BBC and ITV would take the cricket if everything was given on a plate.
Ironic thing is BBC and ITV would love if ECB did what BCCI did and just do all the production and comms and produce the whole thing for TV.

Wasn't ECB going to start a production arm anyway and not leave it to the broadcasters for the next tv deal.
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