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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:47 pm

I be very surprised CA or ECB will accept the new conference idea, considering Ashes series will be reduced and not at regular intervals.
Even BCCI might not like the idea of not playing England/Australia much.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:18 pm

Interesting article on test cricket in india and Australia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016 ... entury-fr/

Really missed a trick though Rajkot should never be a test ground, would have preferred if a stadium in Bihar was build instead.
They really should take the game where people don't see any cricket, IPL, T20 etc.
indore was a success, Vizag, Ranchi more likely to fill the stadium then Rajkot will ever do.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby mikesiva » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:57 pm

bigfluffylemon wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:From what I understand the ICCs proposals would see an additional two teams playing Test cricket, which can't be a thing. However I do feel that the current Test sides dropped down to the second division would see a decline in the quality of the cricket they produce.


Because the West Indies, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe produce such awesome cricket now? The West Indies manage to scrape a home draw against England and it's touted as a fantastic achievement. They haven't won overseas against a team other than Bangladesh or Zimbabwe since 1995.

I'm sorry to say, but the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indies do not belong in the same league as other test nations any more. To be honest, I think it's ridiculous that once a team is afforded test status it then has a god-given right for evermore to play against the best in the world. You should continue to have to earn it. All teams - even the big three. Especially the big 3.

I like the idea (I think it was in an article by Vaughan, no idea if he came up with it) of a four-tier league system of four teams each. Sixteen teams overall, so six associates get test status. Each team plays two games home and away against each other team in their league, for a total of 12 matches in a 2 year period (teams can play more than 2 if they want to allow for marquee series like the Ashes, but only the first two results in the series count towards the league rankings). At the end of the two-year period, the team at the top is declared champion, and the team at the bottom of each league has a two-test playoff against the team at the top of the lower league, at the home of the lower league team. Winner gains promotion (draw=status quo, but the challenger gets home advantage). Bottom team of tier 4 drops off, and the best associate team gets promoted to test div 4.

The prospects of England, India etc. being booted from the top tier should really provide some interest to the competition.

We have two clear divisions in quality now.

Top six are....

India
Australia
South Africa
England
Pakistan
New Zealand

Bottom four are. ...

Sri Lanka
West indies
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe

I don't see how Sri Lanka can improve by getting thrashed in South Africa. It just builds a losing mentality. Look at how negative Jason holder has become in his captaincy as a result of suffering defeat after defeat. IMHO the west indies would be better off playing second tier test cricket against the likes of Sri Lanka Bangladesh Zimbabwe Afghanistan and Ireland. Promote Afghanistan and Ireland to test status and you have two divisions of six teams each.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:15 pm

BD just drew with England and WI drew with England not so long ago. SL beat Australia heavily. All at home, but there is some competition between these groups. And those results were big boosts for these countries. Maybe top six and bottom six sides can play but with the lower ranked side hosting.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby mikesiva » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:09 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:BD just drew with England and WI drew with England not so long ago. SL beat Australia heavily. All at home, but there is some competition between these groups. And those results were big boosts for these countries. Maybe top six and bottom six sides can play but with the lower ranked side hosting.

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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby GG - Amir Sohail » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:14 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:BD just drew with England and WI drew with England not so long ago. SL beat Australia heavily. All at home, but there is some competition between these groups. And those results were big boosts for these countries. Maybe top six and bottom six sides can play but with the lower ranked side hosting.


That's a far too sensible idea for the ICC I'm afraid.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby braveneutral » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:05 pm

Don't be sensible!
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:49 pm

in the new FTP india to play 50% of their games against Aus, England and SA.
all the the other teams will only play 2 Test matches against india.

No more boxing day test for Australia against india and Australia would have to change their summer schedule when india tours for test, India only touring southern hemisphere sides after New years.
Cricinfo calling it an big 4 era, although Akash chopra makes a good point if 50% is 3 nations, 50% for the other 5 isn't that bad.
is not like cricket got 15-20 nations play.

from the onset it looks like india mostly playing test against the big nations and the minimum amount of test they have to play against the weaker nations or the not so financially rich games, but it seems like they probably playing more T20 and ODI against the non big 4 teams which I suspect is building most of the india home season.

Also seems like india won't tour the likes of Sri lanka, WI and will only probably tour the likes of SA, Aus and England.
Doesn't really seem like the new test league is even working, pretty much seems like the same where india, aus, England and SA pretty much play most of the fixture.

Seems like it isn't 50% but 60% of india games in the 4 yr cycle to be against England, SA and Australia.
Broadcaster are the one that wanted majority of those games.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:11 pm

perhaps India don't want to find themselves having to tour Ireland? Same for Aus, Eng and SA
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:46 pm

Looks like money ashes is a thing now.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Adi » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:51 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... -programme

The Indian Premier League has been all but formally recognised in the new Future Tours Programme as a global event. In the next FTP cycle (2019-23), the IPL is the only domestic Twenty20 league during which all international cricket will come to a halt, for a period of two months, across April and May.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:04 pm

In UK this will be called KP Window.
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:21 pm

I don't understand why the T20 Blast doesn't get the same status, after all Durham can get nearly 40 people through the doors for the Yorkshire derby
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:46 am

Adi wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21746867/ipl-now-window-icc-future-tours-programme

The Indian Premier League has been all but formally recognised in the new Future Tours Programme as a global event. In the next FTP cycle (2019-23), the IPL is the only domestic Twenty20 league during which all international cricket will come to a halt, for a period of two months, across April and May.

That's a joke really

If there was a yearly international t20 comp it would make sense

But to stop international cricket for the IPL seems farcical
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Re: ICC FTP Reforms

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:32 am

Been the case for years, they only making it official and it had to happen at some point the money is only going to get bigger playing in the ipl.
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