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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:47 pm

At the bright side makes it easier for india to win next year.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby dan08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:49 pm

alfie wrote:Abbott official then....ah well. A loss to SA , no doubt.

Not great for England though either if too many if these Kolpaks clog up the works. Imported stars are good for the competition on one level ; but they do also tend to block promising England players from taking up a leading role. A balance would be nice...

Is there a limit on the number of Kolpaks that can play county cricket? Hampshire already have 3... :no
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:49 pm

Abbot leaving today not even the worse news, the bad news is that CSA might stop Kolpack players from playing Domestic cricket or players that are not registered to play for SA from the domestic system which would weaken the domestic game more and making it more difficult for players to make the step up to Test cricket.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:52 pm

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alfie wrote:Abbott official then....ah well. A loss to SA , no doubt.

Not great for England though either if too many if these Kolpaks clog up the works. Imported stars are good for the competition on one level ; but they do also tend to block promising England players from taking up a leading role. A balance would be nice...

Is there a limit on the number of Kolpaks that can play county cricket? Hampshire already have 3... :no

no limit the only limit is that kolpaks had to play some cricket for SA recently and be international players.
ECB does restrict kolpaks by reducing grants/loans and money to the counties but that doesn't affect the rich counties.
apparently dan Kent got some kolpaks on the pipeline as well, dobell said more to come and he agreed to keep the news quiet for a while.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby dan08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:55 pm

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dan08 wrote:
alfie wrote:Abbott official then....ah well. A loss to SA , no doubt.

Not great for England though either if too many if these Kolpaks clog up the works. Imported stars are good for the competition on one level ; but they do also tend to block promising England players from taking up a leading role. A balance would be nice...

Is there a limit on the number of Kolpaks that can play county cricket? Hampshire already have 3... :no

no limit the only limit is that kolpaks had to play some cricket for SA recently and be international players.
ECB does restrict kolpaks by reducing grants/loans and money to the counties but that doesn't affect the rich counties.
apparently dan Kent got some kolpaks on the pipeline as well, dobell said more to come and he agreed to keep the news quiet for a while.

Oh really? I know Kent tried hard for Viljoen but Derby offered far more. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

Probably be a few more Kolpak signings before Brexit is confirmed.
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SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:01 pm

Where are the counties getting the money from.
Abbott getting 500K for 3 yrs that is more than the IPL.
That is what Surrey would pay for cricketers.
Viljoen again got a lot of money way more than what IPL would pay.
something doesn't add up considering majority of the counties don't have the money to afford Kolpaks.

in the ipl similar ability players are looking at 30-50K and no guarantee of getting it in future years or even being picked up in the first place.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby yuppie » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:03 pm

Abbott should have done this before the Australian series... :rasta
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby dan08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:05 pm

yuppie wrote:Abbott should have done this before the Australian series... :rasta

Apparently the deal was agreed ages ago. Dobell only released it recently and then everyone became aware of it.
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby andy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:09 pm

hmm so will Abbott play 3rd test, or is that him finished now?
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby dan08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:10 pm

andy wrote:hmm so will Abbott play 3rd test, or is that him finished now?

He wanted to play the final test and then retire. Dobell released the news this week so SA have decided to end his career today instead.
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:10 pm

abbott can't play 3rd test anyway, lorgat got rid of his contract today.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby andy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:11 pm

Dane Vilas is now rumoured to be the next player to leave
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby dan08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:12 pm

andy wrote:Dane Vilas is now rumoured to be the next player to leave

Dane Piedt is looking for a county too.
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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:13 pm

not much of a big loss then.
is he seriously worth the money though.
how much do county players actually get.
find it hard to comprehend how counties can actually afford kolpaks when they struggling financially and having kolpaks means ECB are less likely to give money/help in the future.

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Re: SL tour of SA, Dec 18 - Feb 10

Postby andy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:14 pm

this is getting out of control....i know at Essex we have signed Simon Harmer, so might seem a bit contradictory, but im not at ease with all of this at all.....i dont like the Kolpak ruling...your either an overseas player or your not...end of, in my book.
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