Joe's captaincy watch

What's buzzing in the world of cricket....

Joe's captaincy watch

Postby The Professor » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:31 pm

Now we've had a decent handful of Tests (and a shade of criticism) about our new England captain; what is your verdict?
"It has been said of the unseen army of the dead, on their everlasting march, that when they are passing a rural cricket ground the Englishman falls out of the ranks for a moment to look over the gate and smile."
User avatar
The Professor
 
Posts: 2865
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:11 pm
Team(s) Supported: England
Kent

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby backfootpunch » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:32 pm

He's been following the ball a bit with his field placings

But I liked the aggression of his decleration

Though with us losing I imagine he may not have the faith in his bowlers and fielders to do it again
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 5353
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:13 am

The missing/floating first slip today was a Cook cover version. But I think his bowling changes and fields feel less like cramming of GCSE captaincy modules. There's more of a Vaughan like narrative in the field. If he was instrumental in bringing Ballance back though, perhaps he erred.
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 58496
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:45 am

All the pitches so far have offered something for the bowlers to work with. Usually a lot. It's going to be harder on flat pitches of course, so we've not seen him on PlanZ yet.
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 58496
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Slipstream » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:59 am

Should have stuck with Roland-Jones. Saying Woakes hasn't had enough bowling in the previous match and then playing him when he has had no more bowling. Would have been better for Woakes to have played the match v Lancs and come back at Lords.

Should have bowled Stokes more and told him to bowl dry as in the first innings (25.0-9-63-2 econ 2.52) rather than short pitched bowling and only using him for 5 overs.

Should have had a third man for most of the innings and he bowled Broad and Anderson at the wrong ends for a spell.
User avatar
Slipstream
 
Posts: 1205
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:36 pm

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:41 pm

backfootpunch wrote:He's been following the ball a bit with his field placings

But I liked the aggression of his decleration

Though with us losing I imagine he may not have the faith in his bowlers and fielders to do it again

I reckon Cook's advice will have been "I told you we needed 500 more runs"
2017 Open Golf FL
2016 Australia-SouthAfrica test FL
2016 County Championship D1 FL
2016 Indian Premier League FL
2015 County Fantasy Manager
2015 Big Bash League FL
2014 WI-England test and ODI FL
2014 County Championship D2 FL
2013 County Championship D2 FL
2012 Twenty20 Cup FL
Durhamfootman
 
Posts: 35697
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:53 pm
Location: Chester-le-Street
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby captaincolly » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:34 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:He's been following the ball a bit with his field placings

But I liked the aggression of his decleration

Though with us losing I imagine he may not have the faith in his bowlers and fielders to do it again

I reckon Cook's advice will have been "I told you we needed 500 more runs"

:lol:
Atherton had an interesting article in The Times - he said he thought Root should have declared earlier to give the bowlers more time at the end of the penultimate day to get wickets. His theory was the Windies were demoralised and a longer/more meaningful spell of bowling at the end of the day may well have led to wickets before the close.
captaincolly
 
Posts: 25313
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:47 pm
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC, England

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:06 pm

should have got the wickets anyway... they dropped a few, I believe.
2017 Open Golf FL
2016 Australia-SouthAfrica test FL
2016 County Championship D1 FL
2016 Indian Premier League FL
2015 County Fantasy Manager
2015 Big Bash League FL
2014 WI-England test and ODI FL
2014 County Championship D2 FL
2013 County Championship D2 FL
2012 Twenty20 Cup FL
Durhamfootman
 
Posts: 35697
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:53 pm
Location: Chester-le-Street
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby captaincolly » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:32 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:should have got the wickets anyway... they dropped a few, I believe.

Yep.
captaincolly
 
Posts: 25313
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:47 pm
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC, England

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby The Professor » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:24 am

Blotted his copy book for me today.

Was most eminently playing for a draw when the win was still on the cards.
"It has been said of the unseen army of the dead, on their everlasting march, that when they are passing a rural cricket ground the Englishman falls out of the ranks for a moment to look over the gate and smile."
User avatar
The Professor
 
Posts: 2865
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:11 pm
Team(s) Supported: England
Kent

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby The Professor » Fri May 25, 2018 11:35 pm

Since this thread was last touched I have come to the conclusion that Joe and captaincy do not suit.

He lacks creativity, flexibility and belief (in others and ((increasingl)) himself).

This has all come to a head twice over the last two days. Batting instead of taking the ball was the safe option. And he took it. Holding Wood back was the safe option as Anderson and Broad are the conventional opening bowlers and disregarding the fact that the Pakistani batsmen would have struggled with a bit of pace against them.

All a bit amateur hour I'm afraid.
"It has been said of the unseen army of the dead, on their everlasting march, that when they are passing a rural cricket ground the Englishman falls out of the ranks for a moment to look over the gate and smile."
User avatar
The Professor
 
Posts: 2865
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:11 pm
Team(s) Supported: England
Kent

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby The Professor » Sat May 26, 2018 10:26 pm

Showed poor batting acumen today and abshow of petulance.

Oh Joseph!
"It has been said of the unseen army of the dead, on their everlasting march, that when they are passing a rural cricket ground the Englishman falls out of the ranks for a moment to look over the gate and smile."
User avatar
The Professor
 
Posts: 2865
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:11 pm
Team(s) Supported: England
Kent

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat May 26, 2018 10:29 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:should have got the wickets anyway... they dropped a few, I believe.

not much has changed, seemingly
2017 Open Golf FL
2016 Australia-SouthAfrica test FL
2016 County Championship D1 FL
2016 Indian Premier League FL
2015 County Fantasy Manager
2015 Big Bash League FL
2014 WI-England test and ODI FL
2014 County Championship D2 FL
2013 County Championship D2 FL
2012 Twenty20 Cup FL
Durhamfootman
 
Posts: 35697
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:53 pm
Location: Chester-le-Street
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby yuppie » Sun May 27, 2018 11:08 am

Did Joe decide to bat after what happened in Adelaide? He had faith in the bowlers there and they did not deliver.
2009 New Zealand Vs India Tests Prediction Guru
Prem final standings prediction guru
2010 AFL Footy Tipping Champion
User avatar
yuppie
 
Posts: 13313
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: Lund, Sweden
Team(s) Supported: Australia, Nottingham Forest, Carlton.

Re: Joe's captaincy watch

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun May 27, 2018 1:39 pm

Maybe because the last few Tests there have been low scoring. Last year against SA Root scored a big ton batting first and Moeen took ten wickets. Historically, that's not the pattern of a Lord's Test, but it has been recently. But I think England would be kidding themselves if they thought the toss was a factor. Pakistan played better in the conditions and would have won batting first too. England just aren't that good.
2012-13 SL vs NZ combined fantasy guru

I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 58496
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire/New England.


Return to International Cricket

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests