Indian ODI team - buidling to WC in Aus

[andy]

Ashwin has to play over Jadeja....for a start he actually spins the ball..

[Dr Cricket]

yeah I would drop Jadeja as well not sure we need his batting or bowling in Australia/NZ conditions.

[shankycricket]

Ashwin has to play over Jadeja....for a start he actually spins the ball..

Err no, he is a TERRIBLE bowler in those conditions. Jadeja can at least hold an end up and he is a decent batsman in this format unlike Ashwin. The less said about the comparison between their fielding, the better. Its a no brainer. Jadeja isn't great and I see Akshar Patel as a better long term prospect myself but he is an infinitely better limited overs cricketer than Ashwin in any conditions. Ashwin is a joke in overseas conditions, I honestly don't get this hype that you build around him.

[Dr Cricket]

Funny enough that is what I said about Akshar Patel earlier he could actually be a better version of Jadeja.
Both Limited with the ball but somehow gets wickets but Akshar Patel looks to have a better technique with the bat.

Jadeja has been an embarrassment had high hopes for him last year could have been a very good all rounder for india but how the hell can someone with 3 triple hundreds be so *modded* with the bat that even 21 average flatters him.

He only really need to average around 35-40 with bat to even be a very good player for india when you consider he can be useful with the ball in Home conditions and could in theory allow india 4 seam bowlers abroad.

IF Ashwin/Jadeja never play more than 50 Test matches for India they both should be embarrassed both had so much ability to do far better than what they did.

[andy]

Ashwin has to play over Jadeja....for a start he actually spins the ball..

Err no, he is a TERRIBLE bowler in those conditions. Jadeja can at least hold an end up and he is a decent batsman in this format unlike Ashwin. The less said about the comparison between their fielding, the better. Its a no brainer. Jadeja isn't great and I see Akshar Patel as a better long term prospect myself but he is an infinitely better limited overs cricketer than Ashwin in any conditions. Ashwin is a joke in overseas conditions, I honestly don't get this hype that you build around him.

Shanky your the only person who seems to have developed a hatred for ashwin, and yet you also seem to be the only person who believes Jadeja is the best thing since sliced bread..

[Dr Cricket]

TBH Shanky hates both of them.

[andy]

Shanky hates everyone but Jadeja..

[shankycricket]

I am a Jadeja fan now?

That might be the funniest thing I've EVER heard in the real or the virtual world. Even funnier than saying Ashwin spins the ball in overseas conditions. Raina outbowled him in the ODIs in South Africa and NZ ffs.

[shankycricket]

Disagree with bhavesh that Ashwin and Jadeja have the ability to offer more in Tests. Both are incredibly limited cricketers who, if anything, have already over-acheived IMO. Their continued selection epitomises the depths to which India's spin stocks have fallen. Shame someone like Murali Kartik was born in the wrong era.

[Red Devil]

Disagree with bhavesh that Ashwin and Jadeja have the ability to offer more in Tests. Both are incredibly limited cricketers who, if anything, have already over-acheived IMO. Their continued selection epitomises the depths to which India's spin stocks have fallen. Shame someone like Murali Kartik was born in the wrong era.

Ashwin's test record as an all-rounder speaks for itself really. He'a almost worth his place in the side as a batter, and his bowling has been successful - at least in home conditions

[Red Devil]

a great knock from Rohit today breaking all the records, but I'm going to be a bit controversial and say that I still prefer Rahane to open. When Rohit opens he tends to start very slowly, which is fine if he stays in because he accelerates well later in his innings - but if he gets out it gives us a problem and means the new batter is under big pressure.

So i'd stick with Dhawan, Rahane, Kohli, Rohit, Raina, Dhoni

I think when he comes in down the order he can still accelerate the innings, much more than Rahane would batting at that position. For me, Rohit only opens if Dhawan struggles in Aus. If Kohli wants to bat 4 then Rohit or Rahane at 3 may be an option.

[andy]

i like that order as well Red...was also good to see Kulkarni in the wickets today, i've been a fan of his for some time now..

[Red Devil]

i like that order as well Red...was also good to see Kulkarni in the wickets today, i've been a fan of his for some time now..

yep, I think he's next in line for the ODI's after the 5 seamers picked for Aus - his wickets today were a strangle down the leg side and 3 catches in the deep so his figures flattered him a bit.

I'm really disappointed that they keep picking Binny though, he shouldn't be anywhere near the full Indian side, I don't think he should even be close to the India A side

[shankycricket]

a great knock from Rohit today breaking all the records, but I'm going to be a bit controversial and say that I still prefer Rahane to open. When Rohit opens he tends to start very slowly, which is fine if he stays in because he accelerates well later in his innings - but if he gets out it gives us a problem and means the new batter is under big pressure.

So i'd stick with Dhawan, Rahane, Kohli, Rohit, Raina, Dhoni

I think when he comes in down the order he can still accelerate the innings, much more than Rahane would batting at that position. For me, Rohit only opens if Dhawan struggles in Aus. If Kohli wants to bat 4 then Rohit or Rahane at 3 may be an option.

With Kohli dropping to 4 regularly in the last few matches, I think we could see a top 4 of Dhawan, Rohit, Rahane, Kohli. Although I prefer your order.But can't see them not opening with Rohit after yesterday. Rahane at 4 would be a disaster. Has to be in the top 3.

[shankycricket]

Disagree with bhavesh that Ashwin and Jadeja have the ability to offer more in Tests. Both are incredibly limited cricketers who, if anything, have already over-acheived IMO. Their continued selection epitomises the depths to which India's spin stocks have fallen. Shame someone like Murali Kartik was born in the wrong era.

Ashwin's test record as an all-rounder speaks for itself really. He'a almost worth his place in the side as a batter, and his bowling has been successful - at least in home conditions

Yep, and it is terrible in overseas conditions.