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Postby andy » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:09 pm

Ireland got home by 3 wickets
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby dan08 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:21 pm

A hundred from Rahmat Shah seals the series for Afghanistan.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby andy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:15 pm

Rashid Khan has ripped through Ireland's batting order once again with another 5 wicket haul
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:31 am

Afghan spinners absolutely destroying Ireland.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby dan08 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:00 pm

Afghanistan A beat India U23 today too.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby andy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:03 pm

Ireland 5 years ago woulf have been ready for test cricket, but they certainly aren't now...Afghanistan are miles ahead of them.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:31 am

andy wrote:Ireland 5 years ago woulf have been ready for test cricket, but they certainly aren't now...Afghanistan are miles ahead of them.

not sure ireland would have been if they didn't really have a good enough first class system or youth system.
Afghanistan got the players coming through and a far better first class system.
which is evident in Afghanistan under 19 record which is so much better than Ireland.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:02 pm

Pretty good article on Ireland decline.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:59 am

Ireland have relied on big brother England to pull them along, the players coming through their tin pot domestic competitions aren't good enough. I am a huge fan of Afghanistan who have done it all by themselves which is highly impressive, even before you stop and consider the background this has been done against.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby dan08 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:27 am

bhaveshgor wrote:Pretty good article on Ireland decline.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ireland/con ... 89428.html

Quite unbelievable that Ireland haven't made a single change to their XI in 6 years (apart from those 3 who retired).
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby braveneutral » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:42 am

But also does support the decline argument given lack of competition. Unchanged teams can either be really really good or in this case they can be an indicator of the flip side.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby dan08 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:50 am

braveneutral wrote:But also does support the decline argument given lack of competition. Unchanged teams can either be really really good or in this case they can be an indicator of the flip side.

The decline isn't really with their starting XI (most of them have competition in county cricket anyway), the biggest problem is with their own domestic system where they can't seem to produce anyone. Of course, the ICC should have given them more funding but they still could have made better use of what they had. Or it could just be that Ireland had a golden generation and they are now back on the level of Scotland and Netherlands where they were before.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:53 am

Losing Morgs and Boyd didn't help. But they are still a part of that generation.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby braveneutral » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:04 am

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braveneutral wrote:But also does support the decline argument given lack of competition. Unchanged teams can either be really really good or in this case they can be an indicator of the flip side.

The decline isn't really with their starting XI (most of them have competition in county cricket anyway), the biggest problem is with their own domestic system where they can't seem to produce anyone. Of course, the ICC should have given them more funding but they still could have made better use of what they had. Or it could just be that Ireland had a golden generation and they are now back on the level of Scotland and Netherlands where they were before.

That's true but it's obvious that a lack of threat to their position has lead to complacency of some form.

The results would suggest that regardless of all of the issues in the domestic scene that the starting XI is also not where it needs to be.
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Re: The associate's thread

Postby The Professor » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:09 pm

The Intercontinental Cup match between UAE and Papua New Guinea had some good cricket in it. I feel that once Afghanistan and Ireland join the Test playing nations UAE will be next in line - not due to the quality of their cricket, this was their first win in a four day game since 2013, but due to their potential fan base/untapped market for the ICC.
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