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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:10 pm

It looks like India weigh their rewards towards ODI players. My perspective would have VJ on he top rung.
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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:40 pm

Actually arthur only players playing in all 3 formats get the top contracts, that how it should be anyway.

Anyway unlike in England having a grade A/ grade B or even grade C makes no difference since the money isn't that big of a difference between the different grades.
it really only a guide of where their sit in the selectors eyes for the year.
Don't really agree with the english set up think they should have more contracts, Incremental contracts don't help the counties.
Would also be nice if the ODI specialist get a proper contract.

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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:48 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Actually arthur only players playing in all 3 formats get the top contracts, that how it should be anyway.



Plus MSD.
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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:10 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Actually arthur only players playing in all 3 formats get the top contracts, that how it should be anyway.



Plus MSD.


Yeah MSD is an exception just like Tendulkar and the legends from the past, be pretty hard demoting them but barring them generally only players playing all 3 get the top contract.
Raina was the exception last year though but think that was because of the world cup and Chennai/Srinivasan links barring him all of them have been either legends or all 3 format players.

Tendulkar even got one year extra contract even after he retired.

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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:14 pm

Saying that pleased Rahane got one, he was the one most likely missing out since he is a shy lad and isn't really a shoe in ODI/T20 cricket.
Not too fussed on Vijay should get one but if he got one he would have to play ODI/T20 don't want that to happen he in good form and knows his off stump, T20 ruined him before don't want that to happen again.
he can be the indian version of Cook.

Saying that surprised Jadeja and Mishra got grade c contracts those are the only 2 names that stick out for being in the wrong place.

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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:36 pm

It's probably more then that the English contracts are weighed towards the Test players (and usually pace bowlers). If the contracts are about managing workloads, then this makes sense, because a Test series can last a couple of months, and an ODI series probably a couple of weeks. But I suppose it's also about rewarding box office players. Somebody who only plays LOI isn't really much at risk of burnout, and must be less vulnerable to injury caused by fatigue.

I think Vaughan got a contract after he retired.
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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:51 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:It's probably more then that the English contracts are weighed towards the Test players (and usually pace bowlers). If the contracts are about managing workloads, then this makes sense, because a Test series can last a couple of months, and an ODI series probably a couple of weeks. But I suppose it's also about rewarding box office players. Somebody who only plays LOI isn't really much at risk of burnout, and must be less vulnerable to injury caused by fatigue.

I think Vaughan got a contract after he retired.


Vaughan got one shortly before he offically retired, but after he had played his last game for England.

It would suprise me if the ECB has to actually pay a central contract to a player who has retired.
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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:26 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:It's probably more then that the English contracts are weighed towards the Test players (and usually pace bowlers). If the contracts are about managing workloads, then this makes sense, because a Test series can last a couple of months, and an ODI series probably a couple of weeks. But I suppose it's also about rewarding box office players. Somebody who only plays LOI isn't really much at risk of burnout, and must be less vulnerable to injury caused by fatigue.

I think Vaughan got a contract after he retired.


good point but I really meant that their should have a grade b/C system that other board including australia have so the one day players get a proper contract, the counties are often in limbo during the summer since these player often miss games without much notice to the counties.

England only offer about 10-11 contracts, Australia and India both offer more than 18.
England offer the least number but they pay the most.
india highest contract is worth 100K
Australia highest contract is also worth 100K
ECB pays their players 650K though.
Which probably explains why the board can't afford more.

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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:30 pm

I've read that Aussie players are paid a lot more than England players. A couple of years ago, England players were looking for pay increases to come closer into line.
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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:59 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I've read that Aussie players are paid a lot more than England players. A couple of years ago, England players were looking for pay increases to come closer into line.

they only get paid more when you take into account IPL, Big bash, Endorsements etc.
English players don't have any endorsement deals or are not bigger than their wages.

I only listed the basic wages the board actually pay, Indian/Australian players obviously get paid way more but through other ways.

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Re: India the Test Future?

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Re: India the Test Future?

Postby shankycricket » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:38 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Saying that pleased Rahane got one, he was the one most likely missing out since he is a shy lad and isn't really a shoe in ODI/T20 cricket.
Not too fussed on Vijay should get one but if he got one he would have to play ODI/T20 don't want that to happen he in good form and knows his off stump, T20 ruined him before don't want that to happen again.
he can be the indian version of Cook.

Saying that surprised Jadeja and Mishra got grade c contracts those are the only 2 names that stick out for being in the wrong place.

Bhuvneshwar, Yadav and Aaron certainly don't deserve a better contract than Jadeja or Mishra. The rest looks alright to me. Vijay in Grade A for me though.
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