Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:19 pm

westoelad wrote:
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andy wrote:So it seems that the ECB haven't fully forgiven Stokes....he should be punished accordingly...but it wouldn't suprise me if he turned up in OZ at some point during the series...

I suppose the ECB have to stuck to their decision that he won't be considered for England until the police investigation followed by their own disciplinary procedure are both completed.


Whether they should have made that decision in the first place is another matter - why could they not have left their options more open and retained him in the original squad. Doing so might also have given the police an incentive to get this investigation over and done with before the team left for Australia.


You have to wonder what would have happened had the Sun not got hold of that video. At most a police caution a few days after the incident ,I suspect, and the incident now forgotten with Stokes part of the Ashes set up. I'm in no way condoning Stokes' action but nor will I condemn him until I know all the facts. It 's pretty obvious now that the police and CPS are each passing the buck waiting for the other to make the decision knowing that whichever way it goes there'll be criticism from the media. That equates to the media influencing the justice system and that should be a big concern to all.

I totally agree. The Mirror has a story that again speculates he will play in the 3rd Ashes test but also says he "could" be charged but the court case would be months away.

If he does play for Canterbury he could , ironically , replace a player who has been suspended ... for assault! Although the key difference is the Kiwi player has admitted the charge.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:56 pm

Mike Atherton ( Times online ) has written an article lambasting FTECB for looking as if they have lost control over the Stokes incident. Athers says if he has been given permission to play domestic but not international cricket how would it look if he ended up playing in the Big Bash whilst England were contending the Ashes "down the road."

Most unlike FTECB to make a complex situation even more confusing!
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:59 pm

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:07 pm

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:16 pm

So the police have passed a file on to the CPS and are " seeking charging advice." Not sure if that's good news for him because presumably the police could have decided to end the investigation without seeking such advice?
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Making_Splinters » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:35 pm

Maybe it's just a high enough profile case that people feel they have to dot all of the i s and cross all of the t s.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:05 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Maybe it's just a high enough profile case that people feel they have to dot all of the i s and cross all of the t s.

Yep, that could well be it.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Botham lambasting FTECB "dinosaurs" for not selecting Stokes.
The ECB is full of dinosaurs because the law of the land is you are innocent until proven guilty. ‘The law is not the ridiculous rules and ideas of the ECB. Ben Stokes is box office…and that’s what attracts supporters to cricket.’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/05/ian-botha ... to=cbshare

The farce may not be over either - it appears as if FTECB are going to select him in the ODI squad whilst also sticking to their line about not letting him play until they know the outcome of the CPS decision. So that surely must mean he could be picked in the squad but not considered for selection!
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:08 pm

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:39 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:3 H's again

hopeless, helpless and hapless

Yep!
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:34 pm

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Durhamfootman wrote:3 H's again

hopeless, helpless and hapless

Yep!

And they've done it! Stokes is in the ODI squad but "unlikely to play" according to the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42253939
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:41 pm

Some encouraging Durham performaces here
http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/news-and-med ... rs-action/
And McCarthy had PB ODI bowling v Afghanistan
5-46 off 9 overs to earn MoM.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:45 pm

westoelad wrote:Some encouraging Durham performaces here
http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/news-and-med ... rs-action/
And McCarthy had PB ODI bowling v Afghanistan
5-46 off 9 overs to earn MoM.
FTECB!

Very impressive performance.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:43 pm

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:00 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:more impressive that we are being told about it

Yeah. That website has been unusually informative of late - something must be wrong!
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