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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby captaincolly » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:18 pm

I know Andre Adams has been a top class performer for many years but this stat surprised me:
@OptaJim: 339 - @AndreAdams (339) has taken 58 more wickets than anyone else in Championship Division One cricket since the start of 2008. Giant.

That's a wonderful record and he had some useful batting efforts as well.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:02 pm

Given that we're a third of the way through the D1 season, I guess it's time for some averages:

BATTING

Carberry 45.27
Smith 44.25

Wood 39.00
J Adams 38.33
Ervine 36.44

Dawson 24.54
Briggs 24.00
Wheater 22.00
Berg 21.62
McManus 19.00
Vince 15.72
Terry 0.50

BOWLING

Berg 30.87
Briggs 31.75
Tomlinson 38.80
Dawson 38.87
Edwards 39.00
A Adams 39.88
Wood 50.50
Ervine 60.50
Wheal 86.50

If there's one consolation we have, it is that only three sides have lost fewer matches than us. Worcs have lost twice as many as we have. Clutching at straws, I know. But hey, we're less than one win away from overtaking three teams. We're hardly cut adrift. Yet.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:21 am

Lost the toss, Sussex are batting, I'm expecting a battering.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:35 am

Tommo's form since the opening game, when taken as stand alone hard, cold statistics, means that him being dropped is totally understandable. But I would point out that he's spent this whole season so far as the leader of our attack, usually with very little to support him. So it becomes an easy mindset for opposition batsmen to just see Tommo off, and hit the rest of the attack.

With Bird and Fidel both playing here, and continuing to both get closer to full match fitness, there was maybe the opportunity to put Tommo down to being our third seamer - which in D1, I think is Tommo's level. He doesn't have the pace to lead a D1 attack. But instead we've just jumped straight to dropping him altogether.

Likewise, based on hard, cold statistics, Dawson can have no complaints at all at being dropped. But when you consider that it's Terry who has come in for him, then I think if I was him then I would have every reason to complain.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:43 am

Dawson simply can't get past 40 this season, although he has taken part in some decent opening partnerships.

But to drop him for Terry if that is what has happened is ridiculous, his CC record albeit short is very poor, and I rate him a poorer bet to Gatting if he's still on our books? Does the Terry name still have a big influence at Hants!

Sussex are one down as I type.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:44 am

I'm still not totally convinced by Berg, but it can't be denied that he has done alright with the ball since joining us. Our only seamer who you can put a tick next to in D1 so far.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:48 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Dawson simply can't get past 40 this season, although he has taken part in some decent opening partnerships.

But to drop him for Terry if that is what has happened is ridiculous, his CC record albeit short is very poor, and I rate him a poorer bet to Gatting if he's still on our books?

Sussex are one down as I type.


Indeed. An opener who two roles. To score runs, like any batsman, and also to see off the new ball. As you allude to, Dawson has actually been quite successful so far this season in doing the latter role. Yes it's Dawson's fault for then getting out before he can get to 40, but it's not his fault that the middle order have failed to capitalise on coming in when the ball is a bit older and the first or second change bowler is on.

Assuming that Terry opens, rather than promoting Carberry back up (Terry opening was what happened the other week, when Adams missed out), can anyone really see him doing either of those two roles?
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:34 pm

Berg has completely turned this session on its head.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:06 pm

This partnership has just wrestled some of the initiative back towards Sussex, but nevertheless they remain on dodgy ground at lunch. Add two wickets to this current score, and we're well on top.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby pompeymeowth » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:04 pm

200 is a good score this year at Hove, the wickets are challenging to say the least.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby SaintPowelly » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:32 pm

Any reason Slug hasn't bowled at all ?
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby SaintPowelly » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:58 pm

251 all out, great effort

Need to make sure Carbs opens with Adams
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby sussexpob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:02 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:251 all out, great effort


Judging on our batting at the moment, that is a generous assessment of your bowling performance. I would expect that, with recent scores at Hove, 251 will actually be competitive.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby SaintPowelly » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:03 pm

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SaintPowelly wrote:251 all out, great effort


Judging on our batting at the moment, that is a generous assessment of your bowling performance. I would expect that, with recent scores at Hove, 251 will actually be competitive.


Considering you were 200-4 after choosing to bat, I'd say its a great effort.
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Re: 2015 Hampshire Thread

Postby sussexpob » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:07 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:251 all out, great effort


Judging on our batting at the moment, that is a generous assessment of your bowling performance. I would expect that, with recent scores at Hove, 251 will actually be competitive.


Considering you were 200-4 after choosing to bat, I'd say its a great effort.


Its the first time in 7 innings we scored over 250 though.... :facepalm
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