2015 Hampshire Thread

[st_brendy]

Shah and Ervine on twitter both also, unsurprisingly, asking us to be awarded the two points.

[budgetmeansbudget]

Was vaguely following the Glamorgan score, saw they got 182 and assumed Hants would in all likelihood chase it down. Just looked to see no result and after the glorious weather we've had this weekend was surprised to see the weather had intervened. Don'treally understand what's happened but have gleaned the pitch has become unplayable. Seems rough justice that we should only end up with one point, Glamorgan should at least get a points deduction. Seem to remember we ended up with a similar situation a few years back when we got a points deduction for a poor pitch.

I see Glamorgan started the campaign off with minus two points, what was that for?

[Hampshire]

Was vaguely following the Glamorgan score, saw they got 182 and assumed Hants would in all likelihood chase it down. Just looked to see no result and after the glorious weather we've had this weekend was surprised to see the weather had intervened. Don'treally understand what's happened but have gleaned the pitch has become unplayable. Seems rough justice that we should only end up with one point, Glamorgan should at least get a points deduction. Seem to remember we ended up with a similar situation a few years back when we got a points deduction for a poor pitch.

I see Glamorgan started the campaign off with minus two points, what was that for?

A poor pitch with uneven bounce last season.

[budgetmeansbudget]

Makes sense!

[captaincolly]

The common sense decision would be to give Hampshire 2 points.

[BringBackJesty]

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Makes sense!

It was the same strip!!!!!
We should get the two points, no question. Its totally in the home teams control to provide a proper pitch to play on if not they forfeit the points. A deduction next season hardly helps us!

[st_brendy]

Was vaguely following the Glamorgan score, saw they got 182 and assumed Hants would in all likelihood chase it down. Just looked to see no result and after the glorious weather we've had this weekend was surprised to see the weather had intervened. Don'treally understand what's happened but have gleaned the pitch has become unplayable. Seems rough justice that we should only end up with one point, Glamorgan should at least get a points deduction. Seem to remember we ended up with a similar situation a few years back when we got a points deduction for a poor pitch.

I see Glamorgan started the campaign off with minus two points, what was that for?

Glamorgan's -2 start was because of a poor pitch last season. Following that points deduction last season, there was a lot of talk about changing the rule of applying points deductions in limited overs cricket in the following season. After all, points deductions in four day cricket are applied in the season they are incurred (as our points deduction against Notts was). However, I'm not aware that ultimately anything was formally changed - in which case Glamorgan will be receiving -2 next season, rather than (another) -2 this season.

For their innings, there was a bit of uneven bounce from Fidel and Bird. But the ball was spinning quite a fair amount for our spinners, especially Dawson. There were times when we had all the fielders in the circle, whilst Meschede gloved one from Dawson to second slip/gully, such was the turn. We still had Smith bowling in the 49th over.

Given though that 25 of the last 30 overs we bowled were spin - and four of the other five were bowled by Wood - it wasn't apparent at that point how much the pitch was deteriorating in 'favour' on the faster bowlers. It soon did become clear though, especially with a new ball, once Hogan opened the bowling for them. Seemingly normal balls, not particularly short, smashing first Carberry and then Adams in the grill.

Interesting to hear White say that umpires told him that they weren't 100% certain that it is one-point each. Even for them, this is a rare/new situation.

The only positive spin I can put on the points being shared 1-1, if that is indeed the outcome, is that in all honestly because of the state of the pitch there is every chance that we'd have lost that. Little to do with the Glamorgan bowlers or our batsmen, and you wouldn't have said that Glamorgan would have deserved to have won if they had. A poor pitch is one thing - the batting might not be attractive, but runs can be scored, as Glamorgan showed. But a dangerous and poor pitch, I think we'd have had little chance of chasing it.

[st_brendy]

Lancs join Essex in losing today, which helps us.

At present we sit in 2nd place, one point clear of 5th place (which is Glamorgan, ironically enough) and with a game in hand over 3rd and 4th. Our NRR is the best in the group.

If the ECB were though to change today's points from being 1-1 to 0-2, then us and Glamorgan would remain in our current positions, but a one point gap would increase to a three point gap. Wins on Tuesday and Wednesday would then see us almost certainly see us qualify, with two games to spare.

[st_brendy]

Quote from the ECB website:

"This was the same wicket which produced more than 400 runs in the game against Essex Eagles on Friday. However, it was also the same strip that was used for the game against Durham last season - when Glamorgan were penalised for an unsatisfactory pitch which saw them start this campaign with two points deducted."

[BringBackJesty]

Hmmm still not convinced that producing a dangerous pitch entitles you to share the points, whatever the state of the game. I think (and hope) ECB will agree. This is new ground - up there with when Somerset declared at the end of the first over to get their NRR up - in the early 80's!

[budgetmeansbudget]

Hmmm still not convinced that producing a dangerous pitch entitles you to share the points, whatever the state of the game. I think (and hope) ECB will agree. This is new ground - up there with when Somerset declared at the end of the first over to get their NRR up - in the early 80's!

If we were one of the counties that mattered then the ECB would probably set a precedent. Unfortunately we aren't so the old farts will probably do nothing. Plus don't forget this is a regular Ashes venue we are talking about here, not some unimportant ground in the South which is way off the radar for test matches that matter!

[westoelad]

Hmmm still not convinced that producing a dangerous pitch entitles you to share the points, whatever the state of the game. I think (and hope) ECB will agree. This is new ground - up there with when Somerset declared at the end of the first over to get their NRR up - in the early 80's!

Agree but it would be equally unfair to other teams in the division to award Hants 2pts for a game they didn't win.Glamorgan should be deducted points immediately not carried on into next season which helps Hants qualification.

[st_brendy]

Simon Walter from the Daily Echo is reporting that the ECB will announce tomorrow the points outcome.

[SaintPowelly]

Really not sure what the right decision is, as Westoelad has said, we didn't win the game, however we were miles ahead of the DL and its not our fault the game was stopped.

Maybe award us 1.5 points, is that possible ?

[budgetmeansbudget]

Clearly a dodgy pitch at the Rose bowl this afternoon.