County Championship Division 2 Thread 2016

[DiligentDefence]

Could this be the end of another outground?

[Alviro Patterson]

It did rain rather heavily in Derbyshire on Saturday (probably Friday too), might have rained some more late Monday evening. By all accounts the ground doesn't dry particularly quickly.

I don't think Derbyshire can afford to lose Chesterfield, the T20 against Yorkshire at Chesterfield generates more money than all County Championship matches at Derby combined.

[captaincolly]

Day 4 has already been abandoned. The bowlers run-ups are " unsafe for play " according to the umpires.

[westoelad]

Day 4 has already been abandoned. The bowlers run-ups are " unsafe for play " according to the umpires.

Lot of wet fag ends just behind the stumps apparently.

[captaincolly]

Day 4 has already been abandoned. The bowlers run-ups are " unsafe for play " according to the umpires.

Lot of wet fag ends just behind the stumps apparently.

Very good!

[westoelad]

Joe Clarke recalled by umpires yeaterday and went on to win the game for Worcs with an unbeaten ton. But apparently he was half way up the pavilion steps when recalled. I thought that once you'd left the actual field of play you couldn't be recalled. Anyone care to clarify?

[Arthur Crabtree]

Ian Bell was reinstated after leaving the playing area against India at TB. I seem to remember a story about a player in the WI v England in the sixties, having his appeal withdrawn. So there are precedents. But I understood that the rule was that you were out once you leave the playing area, which is why players pause and wait inside the rope for decisions to be referred. Cricket often seems to make up exceptions as it pleases though.

[sussexpob]

Ian Bell was reinstated after leaving the playing area against India at TB. I seem to remember a story about a player in the WI v England in the sixties, having his appeal withdrawn. So there are precedents. But I understood that the rule was that you were out once you leave the playing area, which is why players pause and wait inside the rope for decisions to be referred. Cricket often seems to make up exceptions as it pleases though.

Wasnt the Ian Bell thing over tea? I seem to remember there was an interval, and during the interval the England Management went into the Indian dressing room and asked for them to reconsider, and Dhoni says he sat down with the players and it was agreed that they felt bad, and after tea Bell re-emerged, confusing everyone.

[Arthur Crabtree]

He walked off the field out though. The WI one was at the close of play, but the player walked off out, and was reinstated. Pretty sure it's against the rules/laws.

[sussexpob]

He walked off the field out though. The WI one was at the close of play, but the player walked off out, and was reinstated. Pretty sure it's against the rules/laws.

I wasnt disagreeing with anything you say, simply saying that not only did he leave the field, but there was a tea interval inbetween the decision being given and withdrawn.

[sussexpob]

Pretty sure it's against the rules/laws.

Law 27.7 seems to indicate that a batsman can be called back if he has left "his wicket" on the misapprehension that he was given out.

Law 27.8 indicates a fielding team can only withdraw an appeal if the batsman has not left the field of play....

Two laws that contradict each other. So in essence a batsman can leave the pitch and be called back, but only if the fielding team does so before he leaves.

[westoelad]

Ian Bell was reinstated after leaving the playing area against India at TB. I seem to remember a story about a player in the WI v England in the sixties, having his appeal withdrawn. So there are precedents. But I understood that the rule was that you were out once you leave the playing area, which is why players pause and wait inside the rope for decisions to be referred. Cricket often seems to make up exceptions as it pleases though.

WI involved Tony Greig throwing down Kallicharan's wicket as he left his crease anticipating close of play and the appeal had to be upheld because the umpire hadn't called over. Wisely Greig decided to withdraw his appeal overnight to prevent himself getting lynched the next morning.
I witnessed Mustard getting recalled by the umpires a few year back at the Riverside but he was hovering on the edge of the square clearly having been told to do so by the umpires whilst they discussed the incident. Obviously this is what should have been done yesterday.
I'm old enough to recall when withdrawing an appeal by a captain was commenplace in club cricket. Only happened though when the reipient was a known walker.

[Arthur Crabtree]

He walked off the field out though. The WI one was at the close of play, but the player walked off out, and was reinstated. Pretty sure it's against the rules/laws.

I wasnt disagreeing with anything you say, simply saying that not only did he leave the field, but there was a tea interval inbetween the decision being given and withdrawn.

OK, thanks.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Tom Fell back from his illness. Good to see.

[braveneutral]

It all comes under Spirit of Cricket I think.

You can kind of twist them with intervals too.