All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:59 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:I hadn't considered that, tbh. Cricketers don't get bought and sold in their own domestic league, do they? Clubs make approaches for out-of-contract players by giving 28 days' notice of their intention to speak to them, surely?

As far as I am aware they don't buy and sell players..... no matter how much Yorkshire would like to

I think that's right, the 28 day approach applies to players in the last year of their contracts but he seems to be saying that no contract offer was made until he was in that last year. If that's true it was at the very least extremely careless to run down the contract knowing for sure he would be in demand. Rocky could be just trying to make excuses for going but now I have a feeling something funny might have been going on and they wanted him off the wage bill.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:02 pm

found this

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/crick ... money.html

feels like light years ago
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:03 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:I took his meaning to be that he discovered that the club were in such financial difficulty that they needed someone to come in and buy them out of trouble, so he scarpered before there was any chance of it affecting his wages..... I'll bet you that he was the one who gave Diva a ring, and not the other way around

but then I do have an axe to grind, so it's probably best not to listen to me

That could be it. The quote on its own is ambiguous, we know the club were looking for a buyer so he may well have Ben referring to that as the reason for the delay in contract discussions.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:04 pm

FTECB
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:06 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:found this

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/crick ... money.html

feels like light years ago

Yep! Incredible change since then. Durham as one of the "bigger richer clubs" Those were the days!
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:12 pm

I wish players were bought and sold- at least that would mean clubs would be adequately compensated for players they'd developed. I'm pretty certain Stoneman has been offered and rejected a contract offer long before the club for into financial difficulties.In this era of agents smaller clubs are always going to have difficulties retaining young protegies which is why Carse and Potts were offered long term contracts.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:20 pm

westoelad wrote:I wish players were bought and sold- at least that would mean clubs would be adequately compensated for players they'd developed. I'm pretty certain Stoneman has been offered and rejected a contract offer long before the club for into financial difficulties.In this era of agents smaller clubs are always going to have difficulties retaining young protected which is why Carse and Potts were offered long term contracts.

Yep. There should be some financial benefit if a player developed by a club moves on.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:37 pm

westoelad wrote:I wish players were bought and sold- at least that would mean clubs would be adequately compensated for players they'd developed. I'm pretty certain Stoneman has been offered and rejected a contract offer long before the club for into financial difficulties.In this era of agents smaller clubs are always going to have difficulties retaining young protegies which is why Carse and Potts were offered long term contracts.

You're right about Rocky rejecting a deal although there's a difference of opinion between him and Harker over the details. DFM also correct in thinking the " buyer" referred to the buyer for the club.
Apparently FTECB's predictions for the revenue generated from the ill fated SL test was for it to be less than the cost of staging the game!
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:04 pm

Another half century for Bancroft in W.A. 2nd inns, 11r.o. in 1st. Averaging 97 since his return.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:29 pm

westoelad wrote:Another half century for Bancroft in W.A. 2nd inns, 11r.o. in 1st. Averaging 97 since his return.

Very impressive.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:50 pm

got to be able to do it on a grey miserable April/May day at the Riverside, though

I hope he can, but he'll have to be a darn sight better than Cook and Markram if he's going to

If he turns out to be like Mike Hussey, I'll be ecstatic
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:11 pm

captaincolly wrote:Apparently FTECB's predictions for the revenue generated from the ill fated SL test was for it to be less than the cost of staging the game!

we knew that, I think, but good to have it confirmed..... and most optimistic not most realistic FTECB predictions to boot

what rankles is that FTECB realised through the Durham experience that this bidding process for internationals was unsustainable, and almost immediately scrapped it before more counties slid into unmanageable financial difficulties.......... yet they still hit Durham over the head with the biggest *modded* sledgehammer they could find, whilst not even completely rescuing them. If the Council hadn't bowed to ECB blackmail and decided against exchanging the debt owed for shares in the club, then Durham would have gone to the wall anyway.

The whole thing stank then, and it still stinks now
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:18 pm

and as for Stonemercenary, Borthdick, Jennings and Coughlin........ ponces!

Jennings has had such a poor couple of years that he didn't really hurt us. Coughlin was such a waste of space that I still haven't noticed if he left a hole, but the other two......... they shafted us big style.... thanks for the help, thanks for the training, thanks for the faith you showed in us, thanks for sticking with us through thick and thin and for giving us the opportunity to make the absolute most of whatever talent we had..... but don't ask us to show any sort of loyalty at all during an existential crisis as a refusal often offends.
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:20 pm

Home grown player, see you later
Gotta hit the road,
Gotta hit the road
Something changed in the atmosphere
Loyalty unfamiliar
You'd better get used to this

Time flies by in the county scene
Don't stick around or you'll see what I mean
There's a Surrey cap that I'm dreaming of
When you need me you know where I'll be

I'll be riding shotgun underneath the hot sun
Feeling like a someone
I'll be riding shotgun underneath the hot sun
Looking like a no-one

South down the country man, journeyman
Gotta hit the road,
Gotta hit the road
Lady Godiver's in my stash, trouser pockets, stuffed with cash
I could get used to this

Time flies by in the county scene
Don't stick around or you'll see what I mean
There's a Surrey cap that I'm dreaming of
When you need me you know where I'll be

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Feeling like a some one
I'll be riding shotgun underneath the hot sun
Looking like a no-one
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Re: All Pretty Vacant, Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:21 pm

I was going to start the new season thread with this, but decided it was time to let it go

they aren't *modded* worth it
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