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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby meninblue » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:11 pm

He should realize that he needs to get well with captains and coaches.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Dilbert » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:12 pm

sussexpob wrote:
My arguement with Adi was that he did not leave SA because he had differences with CSA.


Well he definately did, they were the people who set the Quota policy in place, and im pretty sure I could furnish you with multiple examples on KP's views on that particular policy.


He left because of quota policies, he never had confrontations or differences with CSA like he did with ECB. Thats the point.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Dilbert » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:15 pm

My final post as I wont be on this forum till 16th -

Adi's point was that he doesnt / didnt get along with CSA, Hampshire, Notts, Moores, Strauss, ECB and few Eng players.

To this, my response was that he never had any issues (in the context of Adi's statement) with CSA as he was never in contention for the national team when he left.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby D/L » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:59 pm

ddb wrote:Did anyone post this yet?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... eam-spirit?

Just beware of laughing too hard...at how bad it is.

On the contrary, it summed up one aspect of the issue quite well, I thought.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby D/L » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:02 pm

Dilbert wrote:
D/L wrote:The statement he had no issue at all with CSA seems rather hard to believe.


Why? There is no proof at all he had any issues with CSA. Neither CSA, nor KP, or anyone for that matter, including the press have said anything like that. So why speculate on something that doesnt exist?

He was not in the reckoning for national duty, he was playing as a bowler and was dropped due to racial quota. He did not like it, so came to England. He did have batting potential, and somehow clicked here.

I think you have answered your own question (my underlining), Dilbert.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby mikesiva » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:22 pm

Dilbert wrote:
sussexpob wrote:
My arguement with Adi was that he did not leave SA because he had differences with CSA.


Well he definately did, they were the people who set the Quota policy in place, and im pretty sure I could furnish you with multiple examples on KP's views on that particular policy.


He left because of quota policies, he never had confrontations or differences with CSA like he did with ECB. Thats the point.

Even that is questionable, because the so-called quota policies did not exclude him from club selection in his Saffer club, but his own poor form did....

I really didn't scroll over all 100+ pages of this thread to see if this parody-gate story was posted but here it is:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-s ... 77333.html

The ones laughing the most at this story must be the Saffers....
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby ddb » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:50 pm

D/L wrote:
ddb wrote:Did anyone post this yet?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... eam-spirit?

Just beware of laughing too hard...at how bad it is.

On the contrary, it summed up one aspect of the issue quite well, I thought.

Most people in the comments thought different to you which leaves hope for the rest of us and cliche books.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby D/L » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:29 pm

ddb wrote:
D/L wrote:
ddb wrote:Did anyone post this yet?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... eam-spirit?

Just beware of laughing too hard...at how bad it is.

On the contrary, it summed up one aspect of the issue quite well, I thought.

Most people in the comments thought different to you which leaves hope for the rest of us and cliche books.

Would they be the ones still pushing the tired, old, discredited arguments in support of Pietersen?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Kim » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:47 pm

KP is leaving Surrey
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby Kim » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:35 pm

No hes not. Telegraph have retracted it
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby meninblue » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:45 pm

I have read that Surrey are keen to keep KP .
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby yorker_129-7 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:14 pm

Broad statement confirming he had no involvement in KP parody account

http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/medi ... Folder-L-3

I suspect their willingness to accept would have extended to Pietersen had he been as open and honest about it
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby ddb » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:18 pm

what else would Broad say?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:21 pm

ddb wrote:what else would Broad say?


Are you calling him a liar?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen retires from limited overs cricket

Postby yorker_129-7 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:24 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
ddb wrote:what else would Broad say?


Are you calling him a liar?


He's just insinuating it again. For the second time in 24 hours.
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