The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[Gingerfinch]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

as i said above ginger i think it will depend on what happens at the "peace summit" on sunday and what he is told about his future

if he is told he has one but needs to keep his nose clean and show he can be trusted then the ball would be back in his court to show he is prepared to do what it takes to get back in the squad/s

if he is told the situation is past the point of no return then he might not be quite so willing to bite his tongue

If he's told to be nice (lie) then there's no point him being a pundit.

[rich1uk]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

Excellent viewing. Im up for it.

So the principle of him commentating is OK but the worry is KP is daft?

i think alot of the mistakes he has made this summer has been due to his natural reaction to situations where he feels he is under attack, whether thats right or wrong btw, and thats to go on the counter-attack

so if he does feel that he doesn't have a future then he might want to get some "revenge"

the intriguing aspect will be whether he can restrain himself if he is put on a "probation"

[meninblue]

I heard Jack Brooks in the commentary box during one of the Clydesdale match this month.

[Gingerfinch]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

Excellent viewing. Im up for it.

So the principle of him commentating is OK but the worry is KP is daft?

I'd like his HONEST opinion when watching, yes.

[Arthur Crabtree]

i think alot of the mistakes he has made this summer has been due to his natural reaction to situations where he feels he is under attack, whether thats right or wrong btw, and thats to go on the counter-attack

Has he gone on the counter attack? Mostly he's just seemed hurt. At the press conference, he felt let down, and turned down the opportunity to defend himself. The texts he thought were private messages to friends.

[hopeforthebest]

KP should give up twitter and facebook and just kick the neighbour's cat to vent his frustrations and anger.

[rich1uk]

i think alot of the mistakes he has made this summer has been due to his natural reaction to situations where he feels he is under attack, whether thats right or wrong btw, and thats to go on the counter-attack

Has he gone on the counter attack? Mostly he's just seemed hurt. At the press conference, he felt let down, and turned down the opportunity to defend himself. The texts he thought were private messages to friends.

the content of the texts , assuming they are what has been reported, would be considered a "counter-attack" imo

[Gingerfinch]

i think alot of the mistakes he has made this summer has been due to his natural reaction to situations where he feels he is under attack, whether thats right or wrong btw, and thats to go on the counter-attack

Has he gone on the counter attack? Mostly he's just seemed hurt. At the press conference, he felt let down, and turned down the opportunity to defend himself. The texts he thought were private messages to friends.

Blimey Arthur, are you related to KP? I'm all for sticking up for a man but he has to take his share of the blame.

[rich1uk]

KP should give up twitter and facebook and just kick the neighbour's cat to vent his frustrations and anger.

yeah he should but the problem is that doesn't fit his personality and the same things that make him the batsman he is also lead to the situations we have seen this year

i'm not excusing him btw just trying to understand why he does the things he does which is different from defending him

[Arthur Crabtree]

I probably have some sympathy for the outsider against the establishment. KP has done some things that I wouldn't defend, but these were done under duress from the ECB. it's a classic manoeuvre. Put someone under pressure and then punish the reaction.

[OffStumpYorker]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

as i said above ginger i think it will depend on what happens at the "peace summit" on sunday and what he is told about his future

if he is told he has one but needs to keep his nose clean and show he can be trusted then the ball would be back in his court to show he is prepared to do what it takes to get back in the squad/s

if he is told the situation is past the point of no return then he might not be quite so willing to bite his tongue

If he's told to be nice (lie) then there's no point him being a pundit.

I think if its an honest opinion on something then theres no problem, but if he launches in to a tirade about the players weakeness and that he should be there then thats something different.

I dont think Honest has ever been a problem for Flower and Strauss, its the loss of trust thats been the biggest problem at the moment, I also think that they would have minded the things KP said at the press conference as it would have got a lot off his chest and he'd probably been better for it in the longrun, the crucial thing is the texts and more specifically thier content and context.

[shankycricket]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

Excellent viewing. Im up for it.

So the principle of him commentating is OK but the worry is KP is daft?

I'd like his HONEST opinion when watching, yes.

Aren't you contradicting yourself s bit here? So why was he punished for giving an "honest" opinion in his Press Conference? Why was he punished for his private messages, which I am sure contained his "honest" feelings towards Strauss and Flower?

[Gingerfinch]

Cant see any problem with him commentating if hes not playing. Not very different from Prior and Anderson writing columns when they are playing, is it?

KP will of course say things without thinking unlike a paper column. This could make for good viewing.

Excellent viewing. Im up for it.

So the principle of him commentating is OK but the worry is KP is daft?

I'd like his HONEST opinion when watching, yes.

Aren't you contradicting yourself s bit here? So why was he punished for giving an "honest" opinion in his Press Conference? Why was he punished for his private messages, which I am sure contained his "honest" feelings towards Strauss and Flower?

No I'm not. What I mean is, if Strauss were to waft at one and get caught behind, I want a pundit to say "bad shot" and not "well, he was a bit unlucky" and that would be my fear if KP's in the box whilst still trying to build bridges.
Personal attacks is not's what's needed.

[rich1uk]

i dont know OSY , i am really struggling to see why the texts are such a big issue, almost, and i stress almost, regardless of what was said.

if anything the texts are the one thing that looks to have been done in the heat of the moment and who amongst us hasn't said things we have later regretted in those circumstances, and therefore should be the easiest to forgive imo. add in the fact they were meant to be private, and again who amongst us hasn't said things in private to one person that maybe we didn't really mean but thought it would be what the recipient would like to hear.

the biggest issue for me is the reason behind comments like nass has made where he said that the "whole dressing room hates his guts" i believe. that isn't a situation that has come around as a result of a couple of random texts and is also the thing that is harder to fix, if true.

[shankycricket]

No I'm not. What I mean is, if Strauss were to waft at one and get caught behind, I want a pundit to say "bad shot" and not "well, he was a bit unlucky" and that would be my fear if KP's in the box whilst still trying to build bridges.
Personal attacks is not's what's needed.