The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[meninblue]

KP scored about 160 few days back. It shows he has not been affected by all this. Quality is evident. However, even his form cant gain Surrey more points than Durham.

[backfootpunch]

Well it's taken 160 pages, but Godwin's Law has finally been achieved.

it was inevitable

[ddb]

Dilbert, I can understand having strong reasons, for or against certain things for things that happened in the past.

I'm sorry if you suffered becuase of Mumbai, but to punish individuals that had nothing to do with the incident, dont forget Pakistan was an effective dicatorship at the time, so the people couldnt do anything to change it, is a very strong reaction especially 4 years after the event.

I guess our posts crossed.
Like I said earlier, let the Pak cricketers openly take a stand against terrorism and condemn openly those involved, as we have proof of Pakistans complicity in the act.... just like the SA cricketers took a stand. You think they'll do it? No chance. Do you see anyone from Pakistan applauding Osamas killing in Pakistan? Theres a difference... the SA cricketers took a stand in what they believe is right, Pak cricketers are taking a stand in what they believe is ok.

Also, they were effectively banned from the year 26/11 happened. They played in the 1st edition.

And we have to remember that the BCCI isn't the only one preventing them, it's the govt.

[hopeforthebest]

This thread has turned into something similar to a drive in France where all roads seem to lead to Paris. On her all topics lead us back to the IPL.

[hopeforthebest]

So Flower and KP will have a face to face meeting today with no one else present. I suspect this indicates a determined attempt to rehabilitate KP back into the England fold.

[Making_Splinters]

So Flower and KP will have a face to face meeting today with no one else present. I suspect this indicates a determined attempt to rehabilitate KP back into the England fold.

It is at least a meeting to decide once and for all whether or not KP can be rehabilitated at all, though I agree Hope it is certainlya proactive move by England. I wonder how much Flower's thinking will be changed by his next side likely to have three of the top six with little to no Test experiance.

There has been a definite shift within England and KP with no new news coming out in the press of late.

[D/L]

So Flower and KP will have a face to face meeting today with no one else present. I suspect this indicates a determined attempt to rehabilitate KP back into the England fold.

It should be once bitten (several times in reality), twice shy, as far as the ECB are concerned.

That the meeting is taking place at all seems to indicate that a way is being looked for to allow Pietersen to play again. That is a pity. He should be shown the door permanently. He is more trouble than he is worth.

[hopeforthebest]

I think meeting Flower alone is good for KP as a meeting including Morris would have been more formal and more difficult for a true heart to heart discussion.

[alfie]

2408 posts ?

I will wait for the outcome.

[D/L]

I think meeting Flower alone is good for KP as a meeting including Morris would have been more formal and more difficult for a true heart to heart discussion.

It would be better if Flower were able to concentrate fully on tomorrow's ODI, especially with the series poised at 1-1 and the importance the ECB seem to attach to the ICC rankings.

Hopefully, this will be the final damaging distraction that Pietersen has brought about, but I have my doubts.

[yorker_129-7]

That the meeting is taking place at all seems to indicate that a way is being looked for to allow Pietersen to play again. That is a pity. He should be shown the door permanently. He is more trouble than he is worth.

Well said

[hopeforthebest]

Pundits are suggesting that if KP gives profuse apologies and promises to be available until the 2015 WC all will be well but how can the ECB be sure how reliable that will prove to be. At any time he can turn down a new annual contract or simply retire from international cricket. A great deal will have to be taken on trust which doesn't appear to be his long suit. I don't envy Flower this task he's faced with.

[D/L]

Yes, it’s difficult not to be concerned that, after sticking to some sound principles for a while, as far as this issue is concerned anyway, the ECB may now be looking towards their balance sheet. Whatever else he may do, Pietersen puts bums on seats and helps sell newspapers and broadcasting rights etc..

It’s also difficult to see Pietersen not further blotting his copybook, should he return to the fold, if he promises not to be a naughty boy again.

[yorker_129-7]

As Monty Python might say in a film about "The Life of KP", he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Looks like yet another ECB contract leak.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/se ... l-contract