The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[Arthur Crabtree]

Can't know this is true, but...

I called into question the possible veracity of the article in the first post after the link!

[rich1uk]

and you haven't been doing the same every time an article appears that backs up your opinion hope ?

are you really that naive that you can still think that the ecb haven't handled this whole thing badly after everything thats happened ?

i'm quite happy to acknowledge that KP has been an idiot and has done a number of things that he will live to regret, if he isn't already, but the head in the sand attitude that believes the ECB have been faultless in all of this crap is incredible

[Gingerfinch]

Willis reckons this could be the end of his test career. Not sure I care any more but what a waste if he's right.

[D/L]

...the ECB asked him to sign a contract waiving his rights to take possible legal action against them...

That is interesting. Any link to a report of that?

[rich1uk]

...the ECB asked him to sign a contract waiving his rights to take possible legal action against them...

That is interesting. Any link to a report of that?

its in the telegraph article ddb linked above

[Gingerfinch]

If KP wants to come out on twitter again he could say "what you talking about Willis"?

Sh.t joke but different Stroke fans MAY get it

[D/L]

ECB was responsible for KP not being picked. Miller was told not to select him.

But presumably, the general middle order chaos comes down to Miller (perhaps Flower). He is responsible for selection.

“Miller was told not to pick him”? Any evidence for that or is just yet more wild speculation? Perhaps (so far) both Miller and the ECB share the same values.

Saying that the ECB was responsible for KP not being picked is a bit like saying the government were responsible for the end of John Stonehouse’s political career.

From the horse's mouth.

"I've not been given the opportunity to select him because of the issue," Miller told BBC Radio 5 live. "When the board says everything is OK, we will revisit the selection process.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19637672

Slight correction, it seems from the Telegraph article - though not sourced - that it was Flower who told the selectors not to consider KP, however from Morris' comments it seems the Board also has the ultimate say in the matter.

It’s difficult to form the impression that, had it not been for the ECB, Miller was desperate to select Pietersen.

[hopeforthebest]

and you haven't been doing the same every time an article appears that backs up your opinion hope ?

are you really that naive that you can still think that the ecb haven't handled this whole thing badly after everything thats happened ?

i'm quite happy to acknowledge that KP has been an idiot and has done a number of things that he will live to regret, if he isn't already, but the head in the sand attitude that believes the ECB have been faultless in all of this crap is incredible

In the beginning I was joining in yes but quite some time ago it became clear to me that almost all of the controversial material was being filtered through the media.
At present the only public statements have come from Flower and Strauss on one side and KP on the other which tell us very little of what is going on behind the scenes.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Willis reckons this could be the end of his test career. Not sure I care any more but what a waste if he's right.

The press is turning already. Not hardcore haterz maybe. Though even Selvey is expressing regret that he hasn't been picked. It only takes a couple of defeats for the machine to go into reverse, even though they had been losing with KP. From pressurising the ECB to punish Pietersen, they will soon be telling them to pick him. Unless Morgan, Bairstow and Compton do really well.

[rich1uk]

thats the thing for me AC , if the situation with pietersen was as bad as its being made out to be why dont they just tell him its over and he will never play for england again and finish the issue here and now

its like they want to keep him hanging on the end of a string with promises that if hes a good boy there might be a future just in case the whole thing comes tumbling down on them before the back to back ashes series with australia next year and they end up being forced to recall him

[hopeforthebest]

Willis reckons this could be the end of his test career. Not sure I care any more but what a waste if he's right.

The press is turning already. Not hardcore haterz maybe. Though even Selvey is expressing regret that he hasn't been picked. It only takes a couple of defeats for the machine to go into reverse, even though they had been losing with KP. From pressurising the ECB to punish Pietersen, they will soon be telling them to pick him. Unless Morgan, Bairstow and Compton do really well.

So Arthur you believe that the ECB who you frequently claim to be hard and intractable are going to become soft and wobbly the moment England start losing.

[D/L]

...the ECB asked him to sign a contract waiving his rights to take possible legal action against them...

That is interesting. Any link to a report of that?

its in the telegraph article ddb linked above

Cheers. From the article...

"Pietersen’s return to the England fold was dependent on agreeing a set of conditions which included waiving his rights to any future legal action in employment disputes with the England and Wales Cricket Board..."

I can only assume that this has been misreported. An agreement to waive one’s legal rights could never be enforced.

[Arthur Crabtree]

It's possible, hope. The ECB keep not ruling KP out in the future. Every few days they keep alive the possibility that he might play again. Their aim seems to be to neuter him, rather than kill him outright. In contract terms.

[hopeforthebest]

For my money this is a matter that has boiled down to Flower v Pietersen and the ECB are simply supporting Flower's judgement.

[Arthur Crabtree]

This goes back to the contract negotiations, which wouldn't be down to Flower.