The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[Gingerfinch]

I think KP should just disclose the text he sent and solve all this mess. It will separate milk from water.

It has been deleted, at least by sender or receiver.

[Making_Splinters]

The press release. WHat a load of guff.


http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/medi ... 76,EN.html

Weasel words from both parties, and no mistake.

He's basically saying he didn't send anything he considered to be offensive at the time but others might find them to be so, I'm sure that's been brought up somewhere before.

Anyway, glad it's all over, from the Crapinfo article it seems he'll be in squads but not playing this year, press conferance later so clear everything up.

[hopeforthebest]

"With regards the issue of the BBM messages, due to the fact that Kevin had not retained the BBM messages, this matter has been successfully concluded through a binding assurance provided to ECB by Kevin. Kevin conceded that the messages exchanged were provocative. ECB is satisfied, following receipt of this binding assurance, that to the best of his recollection, Kevin did not convey any messages which were derogatory about the England Captain, the England Team Director, the ECB or employees of the ECB. Furthermore, there was no tactical information whatsoever provided to members of the South African Touring Party."

Now everything is so clear, I'm glad that's got it sorted out.

[meninblue]

I think KP should just disclose the text he sent and solve all this mess. It will separate milk from water.

It has been deleted, at least by sender or receiver.

So impossible to find the content until they approach court and let the service provider have permission to trace the "SMS" .

[hopeforthebest]

provocative - WordReference.com Dictionary of English
www.wordreference.com/definition/provocative - Vertaal deze pagina
?adjective. 1 causing annoyance, anger, or another strong reaction, especially deliberately. 2 arousing sexual desire or interest, especially deliberately.

Maybe KP was in love.

[D/L]

"With regards the issue of the BBM messages, due to the fact that Kevin had not retained the BBM messages, this matter has been successfully concluded through a binding assurance provided to ECB by Kevin. Kevin conceded that the messages exchanged were provocative. ECB is satisfied, following receipt of this binding assurance, that to the best of his recollection, Kevin did not convey any messages which were derogatory about the England Captain, the England Team Director, the ECB or employees of the ECB. Furthermore, there was no tactical information whatsoever provided to members of the South African Touring Party."

Now everything is so clear, I'm glad that's got it sorted out.

Yes, a typical fudge, so often seen when the authorities (and not just sporting ones) try to convince us that they are taking the correct approach and not acting from baser motives.

15º of flex, anyone?

[D/L]

The press release. WHat a load of guff.


http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/medi ... 76,EN.html

Weasel words from both parties, and no mistake.

He's basically saying he didn't send anything he considered to be offensive at the time but others might find them to be so, I'm sure that's been brought up somewhere before...

It seems that is the only place Pietersen had to go, to create the impression in the minds of some that he has simply been misunderstood. Perhaps this means that, for once, the advice has been good and he’s taken it.

[Making_Splinters]

The press release. WHat a load of guff.


http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/medi ... 76,EN.html

Weasel words from both parties, and no mistake.

He's basically saying he didn't send anything he considered to be offensive at the time but others might find them to be so, I'm sure that's been brought up somewhere before...

It seems that is the only place Pietersen had to go, to create the impression in the minds of some that he has simply been misunderstood. Perhaps this means that, for once, the advice has been good and he’s taken it.

Of course D/L, of course. Or maybe it's actually true, you actually don't ahve anything to show otherwise and this agreement has been reached by people with a far more complete view of the picture than anyone on here. Though obviously the next line of attack is going to be trying to cast aspersion on their motives for doing so one would imagine.

Thankfully it seems to all be over now baring the shouting.

[D/L]

The press release. WHat a load of guff.


http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb/medi ... 76,EN.html

Weasel words from both parties, and no mistake.

He's basically saying he didn't send anything he considered to be offensive at the time but others might find them to be so, I'm sure that's been brought up somewhere before...

It seems that is the only place Pietersen had to go, to create the impression in the minds of some that he has simply been misunderstood. Perhaps this means that, for once, the advice has been good and he’s taken it.

Of course D/L, of course. Or maybe it's actually true, you actually don't ahve anything to show otherwise and this agreement has been reached by people with a far more complete view of the picture than anyone on here. Though obviously the next line of attack is going to be trying to cast aspersion on their motives for doing so one would imagine.

Thankfully it seems to all be over now baring the shouting.

Many cases in court are settled by applying “the test of the reasonable man”, M_S.

I think I know what would be the result if this test were applied to the question, “was Pietersen simply misunderstood or was someone (he and/or his advisors) being duplicitous?”.

Yes, this issue appears to have been settled, but not the bigger one the ECB have now created for themselves.

[Kim]

I think KP should just disclose the text he sent and solve all this mess. It will separate milk from water.

Its been put to bed now. Best to leave it. Hes given a binding assurance that "to the best of his recollection" (smirks) that texts werent bad. That's it - unless the contents do come out in future and his recollection is wrong,in which case hes finished.

[hopeforthebest]

I only hope the next time I come home late from the golf club tipsy with a smell of perfume and lipstick on my collar. my assurances and recollections will be equally successful.

[D/L]

I think KP should just disclose the text he sent and solve all this mess. It will separate milk from water.

Its been put to bed now. Best to leave it. Hes given a binding assurance that "to the best of his recollection" (smirks) that texts werent bad. That's it - unless the contents do come out in future and his recollection is wrong,in which case hes finished.

Not really; the ECB now have the short term problem of sullen acceptance of Pietersen’s presence in the dressing room by his team mates, some of whom probably hate his guts.

The longer term problem is the precedent of a player seen to have behaved disgracefully towards his colleagues and getting away with it.

This affair is a classic example of unequal treatment of players, based upon the perception, no matter how warped that may be, of their value to the team. Does anyone really think the ECB would have performed these moral and ethical somersaults for, say, James Taylor?

[hopeforthebest]

Just a 4 month contract.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19813337

[D/L]

Just a 4 month contract.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19813337

...and yet more weasel words, I see.

[hopeforthebest]

He's been put on probation.