Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

[Arthur Crabtree]

It seems to be a cut back. Hotspot does a good job if handled well.

[Gingerfinch]

It seems to be a cut back. Hotspot does a good job if handled well.

Yeah the TV company has got rid. I won't go on about DRS again

[Arthur Crabtree]

We've not seen the last of hotspot....

It's hard for the umpires to work out a method if the tools available keep changing. Which is a reason for the ICC to take charge of it. It'll lead to confusion if all systems are not used together consistently.

[GarlicJam]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/current/story/678311.html

Hurrah!

Now get rid of the rest.

this is not good. if we are going to have DRS at all, the 3rd U needs to have all the tools at his disposal. Cutting Hotspot will weaken the accuracy of the DRS, not improve things.

Very poor form shown by CA.

[Durhamfootman]

Poor decision by CA, IMV. They are just pandering to somebody, although who that is, or why that should be, is unclear to me.

It's not as bad as the ICC giving captains more reviews, though. I think people lose sight of what DRS was supposed to do, eliminate the howler. Almost every player's referral ought, in theory, to be upheld by the 3rd umpire, because the referral ought to be made for the inside edge in an lbw decision (for example). There has really only been a problem with the number of referrals, because captains try to use the system for something that it isn't designed to do, and chance their arms quite a lot. That they then don't have any referrals left for the genuine howler is entirely their fault, and not a flaw in the number of referrals. I would reduce the number of referrals to one, so that captains/batsmen only used them in extremis, not give them carte blanche to take the ssip even more, knowing that they'll get some more later.

All that will happen is the captains will abuse the system even more than they do now, then run out of referrals even earlier, cry foul, and wait for the ICC to replace their referrals after every 40 overs, and then every 30 overs..............................

It's a nonsense. Losing hot spot is neither here nor there....... it is just muddying the waters to disguise the real problem with the system, which is the players themselves.

[Arthur Crabtree]

It's a nonsense. Losing hot spot is neither here nor there....... it is just muddying the waters to disguise the real problem with the system, which is the players themselves.

The umpires use all the systems together to make a decision, so to me it does matter there's no hot spot, as they will never get DRS to work if they are changing the way the separate elements work together. And hot spot is useful, as it gives you a definite positive (though not a definite negative) which snicko doesn't do. But I agree that the players are part of the problem. As well as commentators, who could explain the misunderstandings to the public, if they only understood it themselves. How much harm to the system do Botham and Holding do, who are basically describing the system they want (which changes by the hour), as well as trashing the reputation and confidence of the umpire.

[GarlicJam]

In another act of total buffoonery, CA has stopped the ABC from broadcasting any domestic cricket over the only truly national radio network. While they still have the tests, some commercial network has decided that they want to broadcast the Big Bash League (which will end up being in just the major cities). CA, in their wisdom, have decided that the radio rights to all of the Domestic cricket are sold as a bundle. Said commercial network don't give a rat's for the Sheffield Shield (and probably the one day comp), so will leave it uncovered.

What a myopic, short-term, moneygrabbing exercise this is. Interest and knowledge in the Sheffield Shield will dwindle even more, desire of the next generation of cricketers to play the longer form of the game will decrease even more, and CA will hold gabfest after gabfest trying to find out what is wrong with Australian Cricket.


From a purely selfish viewpoint, this is a great shame, as pottering about in the shed, the yard, or in the garden, on the weekends listening to descriptions of half an hour of the match in Perth, then half an hour of the match in Hobart, etc., makes for a pleasant and interesting day. Even exciting, as the season draws to a close - last round last season, all six teams had a chance at making the final, I think even up to the last day. Reading about it in the newspaper the next day just won't cut it.

[hopeforthebest]

Hot spot may not have shown faint nicks every time but it worked often enough to get some important decisions correct. The edge Haddin gave at Trent Bridge is a case in point. This is clearly a case of CA and the broadcaster fighting over money.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Yes, a cricket legend. Must have been a difficult decision to make. Best wishes to him.

[hopeforthebest]

Hot spot may not have shown faint nicks every time but it worked often enough to get some important decisions correct. The edge Haddin gave at Trent Bridge is a case in point. This is clearly a case of CA and the broadcaster fighting over money.

apparently it costs $10,000 per day of test cricket to have the four Hotspot cameras going. That adds up to $250,000 - assuming that each test goes the full distance - for this upcoming Ashes series. Very much small change when held up against what Channel Nine are paying CA for the rights to the cricket.

Maybe CA have calculated that the Aussie batsmen nick deliveries more often than the England batsmen and getting rid of hot spot is to their advantage.

[hopeforthebest]

The time warp is making this thread nonsense.

[Gingerfinch]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/24476273

After 25 years, he finally quits.

A true legend.

[Gingerfinch]

Yes, a cricket legend. Must have been a difficult decision to make. Best wishes to him.

But who made the decision?

[GarlicJam]

But who made the decision?

If it wasn't the great man himself, then it was someone very very brave.


As much as I have been expecting this for some years now, I was a little shocked to read it just then.

[GarlicJam]

Hot spot may not have shown faint nicks every time but it worked often enough to get some important decisions correct. The edge Haddin gave at Trent Bridge is a case in point. This is clearly a case of CA and the broadcaster fighting over money.

apparently it costs $10,000 per day of test cricket to have the four Hotspot cameras going. That adds up to $250,000 - assuming that each test goes the full distance - for this upcoming Ashes series. Very much small change when held up against what Channel Nine are paying CA for the rights to the cricket.