clubcricketeradi wrote:Nothing inflated at all. He imo was the top 2 English cricketers in both tests (broad and Ben) and ODI series ( Ben and Morgan).
Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Nothing inflated at all. He imo was the top 2 English cricketers in both tests (broad and Ben) and ODI series ( Ben and Morgan).
In three Tests, and has played a single innings of note in the ODIs going for plenty of runs with his bowling to boot.
clubcricketeradi wrote:Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Nothing inflated at all. He imo was the top 2 English cricketers in both tests (broad and Ben) and ODI series ( Ben and Morgan).
In three Tests, and has played a single innings of note in the ODIs going for plenty of runs with his bowling to boot.
Agree to disagree.
For me it is not possible to name any other player from England apart from Broad in tests and Morgan (maybe) in ODI's who contributed better than Ben.
Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Nothing inflated at all. He imo was the top 2 English cricketers in both tests (broad and Ben) and ODI series ( Ben and Morgan).
In three Tests, and has played a single innings of note in the ODIs going for plenty of runs with his bowling to boot.
Agree to disagree.
For me it is not possible to name any other player from England apart from Broad in tests and Morgan (maybe) in ODI's who contributed better than Ben.
Being the best in a fairly terrible performance doesn't mean much. Poor old Stokes is being over hyped in all quarters at present. We need to let him have a decent run to show what he can do over an extended period of time before laying on all the praise.
clubcricketeradi wrote:Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Making_Splinters wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:Nothing inflated at all. He imo was the top 2 English cricketers in both tests (broad and Ben) and ODI series ( Ben and Morgan).
In three Tests, and has played a single innings of note in the ODIs going for plenty of runs with his bowling to boot.
Agree to disagree.
For me it is not possible to name any other player from England apart from Broad in tests and Morgan (maybe) in ODI's who contributed better than Ben.
Being the best in a fairly terrible performance doesn't mean much. Poor old Stokes is being over hyped in all quarters at present. We need to let him have a decent run to show what he can do over an extended period of time before laying on all the praise.
imo he has shown that he can take five fer in both tests as well as ODI formats. That is excellent ability and performance as well. Plus the 100 in debut series on a pitch with wide crack .I think that also came on day 4 or day 5 . His performance imo is not great but definitely above average. I am not hyping him by saying great performance like others maybe saying.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I don't see any hyping going on here, just a recognition of some encouraging performances.
D/L wrote:Arthur Crabtree wrote:I don't see any hyping going on here, just a recognition of some encouraging performances.
Something more usually expressed in match threads rather than in one devoted to a single player, perhaps.
Didn't Prior have his own hype thread as well?
Dr Robert wrote:D/L wrote:Arthur Crabtree wrote:I don't see any hyping going on here, just a recognition of some encouraging performances.
Something more usually expressed in match threads rather than in one devoted to a single player, perhaps.
Didn't Prior have his own hype thread as well?
And Bresnan of course
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