The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[hopeforthebest]

It's well established that information that the ECB would never make a public statement on for one reason or another does flow from the ECB to the handful of "big name" cricket journalists in this country, Selvey has himself admited this was the case in the past, and this drip feeding serves the purposes of the people giving the information out. What of course is never known is the degree of journalistic license take with any information that is put in to print.

By whom exactly. Facts please.

[Making_Splinters]

It's well established that information that the ECB would never make a public statement on for one reason or another does flow from the ECB to the handful of "big name" cricket journalists in this country, Selvey has himself admited this was the case in the past, and this drip feeding serves the purposes of the people giving the information out. What of course is never known is the degree of journalistic license take with any information that is put in to print.

By whom exactly. Facts please.

Selvey admitted he had received information from the ECB in the comments section during the KP text saga as part of an attempt to differentiate between a leak and an informal breifing.

I'm not going to go searching for year old Grauniad articles, the link will be in this thread somewhere no doubt.

[hopeforthebest]

It's well established that information that the ECB would never make a public statement on for one reason or another does flow from the ECB to the handful of "big name" cricket journalists in this country, Selvey has himself admited this was the case in the past, and this drip feeding serves the purposes of the people giving the information out. What of course is never known is the degree of journalistic license take with any information that is put in to print.

By whom exactly. Facts please.

Selvey admitted he had received information from the ECB in the comments section during the KP text saga as part of an attempt to differentiate between a leak and an informal breifing.

I'm not going to go searching for year old Grauniad articles, the link will be in this thread somewhere no doubt.

So the claim from one journalist who has just been forced to make a humiliating retraction, is the only proof you have to offer.

[Making_Splinters]

It's well established that information that the ECB would never make a public statement on for one reason or another does flow from the ECB to the handful of "big name" cricket journalists in this country, Selvey has himself admited this was the case in the past, and this drip feeding serves the purposes of the people giving the information out. What of course is never known is the degree of journalistic license take with any information that is put in to print.

By whom exactly. Facts please.

Selvey admitted he had received information from the ECB in the comments section during the KP text saga as part of an attempt to differentiate between a leak and an informal breifing.

I'm not going to go searching for year old Grauniad articles, the link will be in this thread somewhere no doubt.

So the claim from one journalist who has just been forced to make a humiliating retraction, is the only proof you have to offer.

Yes, while I accept that a journalist coming out and saying that he gets his information from the ECB - information that was not in the public domain until that point - is the most conclusive evidence, perhaps you could suggest an alternative to how such things find their way into the hands of the press?

[Arthur Crabtree]

Selvey admitted this at the time of textgate, not over this recent article.

[Slipstream]

Saker on KP
We went through tough times and people want to make up stories," said Saker.
"Kevin has been the same as he has always been. I'm sure what's being reported is nowhere near the truth."
"The relationship between Kevin Pietersen and Andy Flower hasn't changed from where I'm sitting," Saker added. "That's what happens. When you are losing these things come out quite often."

Anderson on KP
I am not aware of any big issue behind the scenes. Even when there were a few problems a while back, I’ve always said that having Kevin Pietersen in the team when he is in form and playing well makes for a strong England team.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Funny that interview was covered in the Guardian, but this wasn't mentioned.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Swann comments that the idea that KP is a problem in the dressing room is a press fabrication.

[D/L]

Swann also says that Pietersen’s presence in the dressing room has been “divisive” in the past.

[greyblazer]

Did he talk about playing SLA?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5QdnAYt ... e=youtu.be

[Slipstream]

I want to know what KP has done that calls for these meetings he has had recently. He has had one with Downton and was spotted yesterday going for another with Cook and Whitaker and another person, probably Downton. He's not making runs but no one else is. If he has done something off the field you would expect he would be disciplined in-house. The only thing I can think of is they are thinking of making KP captain.

[greyblazer]

If he has ever done something wrong then it should be said. Captain? KP won't play again.

[Slipstream]

If he has ever done something wrong then it should be said. Captain? KP won't play again.

If they think they can drop KP, the ECB will have to deal with his lawyers.
If he had done something wrong it should have been sorted out behind the scenes just like any other player.
Why would he be meeting with a selector? Players don't meet with selectors. Giles was on his way home otherwise I am sure he would have been there as well.

[D/L]

If he has ever done something wrong then it should be said. Captain? KP won't play again.

Pietersen's misbehaviour is already a matter of public record and hopefully he won't, at least not for England.

[D/L]

If they think they can drop KP, the ECB will have to deal with his lawyers...

That's a good one!

If it were allowed, it'd be fascinating to see an action for non-selection brought to court. I doubt, though, that Pietersen's lawyers would be so stupid.

Even supposing it were possible, and Pietersen's legal team really were stupid, any judge would look at Pietersen's recent performances, dismiss the case and admonish him and his legal team for wasting the court's time.