The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby D/L » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:53 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:
This is how helpful KP is as a person irrespective of how ECB have portrayed him as villain in dressing room:

http://www.anchorfan.com/image/kevin-pi ... 59807.html

http://www.bgcpartners.com/news-centre/ ... 01719.html

I've mentioned this before, but, for the last time. Before the 2010 Ashes Test in Brisbane KP expressed his sympathy for flood victims in Queensland before the first Test in Brisbane, and gave some money and cricketing items to the disaster appeal over and above contributions made by the whole team. Come the first Test at the Gabba, KP got booed out into the middle.... Showing Kevin is whatever the opposite is of teflon coated.

I wouldn't say that this is necessarily true in Pietersen's case, but many celebrities who find themselves in bad odour with the press and the public have been advised by their agents etc. to do something in the public eye that may help to repair the damage.

Donations to worthwhile causes can, of course, be made entirely free from publicity.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:20 am

I always say that everybody's right.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby D/L » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:42 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/mar/24/chris-tremlett-kevin-pietersen-england-surrey

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/k ... en-3285364

Some alternative views on the KP sacking.

One story from Tremlett, who wouldn't have been in many England dressing rooms with Pietersen and who also says "Things have happened with Kevin along the way that have upset the ECB in the past", a reference to Pietersen's self-confessed act of disloyalty towards Strauss, perhaps.

The other in the "Mirror", is not even a direct quote from Kirsten, but the newspaper's own interpretation of something said to have been privately confided.

It's all just newspapers being newspapers. Well, I suppose the "Guardian" is a newspaper of sorts.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:32 pm

We'll just have to wait for KP's book to come out.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby D/L » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:29 pm

Ghost written by Piers Morgan, perhaps.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby KipperJohn » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:55 pm

Aidan11 wrote:We'll just have to wait for KP's book to come out.


I doubt if much will come to light, given the confidentiality agreement that's almost certainly in place relating to the termination of his contract with the ECB. No publisher in their right mind would touch it if it breached that and it would if you expect any more significant information.

KP will be in the limelight before long no doubt - but whilst I write this post it already feels similar to fish and chip paper.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:34 pm

KP has made himself available for the Caribbean T20.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Hampshire » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:43 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:KP has made himself available for the Caribbean T20.

And therefore available for Surrey for more or less none of the season if he does. One heck of a contract they have with him...
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby braveneutral » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:55 am

Is it possible that he is on pay as you play to keep them with the cap and to give him freedom to do what he wants?
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby mikesiva » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:52 pm

'He will play in the CPL on a "secondment clause" in his Surrey contract which allows a temporary change or relocation of position and duties. The clause was in there for a reason. It remains unconfirmed whether Surrey will also benefit from the arrangement. "He is contracted for all the T20 fixtures," Gould said. "His contract allows him to play championship cricket and 50-overs cricket subject to his availability and we will see how that goes during the season." The CPL is scheduled to run from July 5 to August 10. In that time, Surrey play their final five group matches in the space of a fortnight - all of which Pietersen has vowed to play. They have a home match against Glamorgan on Friday, July 11, the day after CPL launches (pads strapped on at Heathrow?), further matches on the Wednesday and Friday of the following week and then two games in 24 hours - a derby against Middlesex on Thursday, July 24, and a short trip to Canterbury (a mere bagatelle for a hardened traveller like Pietersen) to play Kent the following day.'

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/ ... 32255.html

I see three options....

1) KP plays in the Caribbean from July 5-9, flies back to England, stays there until July 25, and returns to the Caribbean to play until August 10;

2) KP skips the Glamorgan game, plays in the Caribbean July 5-14, flies back to England, stays there until July 25, and returns to the Caribbean to play until August 10.

3) KP misses the start of the CPL, stays in England, and joins the CPL after July 25, and plays until August 10.

It's not difficult, especially if he ends up at Jamaica with his good friend Gayle, because there are flights from Kingston to Gatwick every day....
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby meninblue » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:08 pm

Many had predicted that England team without KP would struggle to win the T20 cup.In fact they have failed to qualify even for second round.Imagine if KP was in batting lineup with Alex and Morgan.The selectors picked a losing team and they have to accept what they prepared for.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby D/L » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:14 pm

Better to fail to qualify without Pietersen than fail to qualify with him.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:14 pm

clubcricketeradi wrote:Many had predicted that England team without KP would struggle to win the T20 cup.In fact they have failed to qualify even for second round.Imagine if KP was in batting lineup with Alex and Morgan.The selectors picked a losing team and they have to accept what they prepared for.


I think the fact we went into the competition drafting in new players in until the last minute and relying on a many times failed strategy of pace in Asia suggests the side wasn't prepared well. Still, it's only T20, and bigger fish are waiting to be fried. Going in without KP was one factor in a larger shambles.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby D/L » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:19 pm

A redeeming factor, certainly.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby meninblue » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:39 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:Many had predicted that England team without KP would struggle to win the T20 cup.In fact they have failed to qualify even for second round.Imagine if KP was in batting lineup with Alex and Morgan.The selectors picked a losing team and they have to accept what they prepared for.


I think the fact we went into the competition drafting in new players in until the last minute and relying on a many times failed strategy of pace in Asia suggests the side wasn't prepared well. Still, it's only T20, and bigger fish are waiting to be fried. Going in without KP was one factor in a larger shambles.


Not respecting conditions,picking out of form bowlers,bad fielding and yes KP non selection made huge difference.All mistakes which could easily be avoided at strategic level.
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