England A in South Africa 2015.

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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:16 pm

You can understand why the selectors want to see if Trott can make a come back, he averages the right side of 45 in Test cricket and 50 in ODIs. Before his form went south, he was one of the best first drops England have had in a very long time, Gower would be the first player you'd put in the same bracket and that was 20 odd years ago.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:18 pm

He's 34 in April. Time to move forward?
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby KipperJohn » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:31 pm

It's not just a fact that people are living longer - sportsmen and women are lasting longer. Look at the likes of Sanga and Mahela who have still performed in their twilight years. Age, whether young or old, should not be a defining factor in selection - ability, performance, fitness etc should be the prime considerations.

Well played Trotty - leave the dob on the application form blank.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:36 pm

KipperJohn wrote:It's not just a fact that people are living longer - sportsmen and women are lasting longer. Look at the likes of Sanga and Mahela who have still performed in their twilight years. Age, whether young or old, should not be a prime consideration in selection - ability, performance, fitness etc should be the prime considerations.


Good point, and I remember how well Gooch batted in his late thirties. Trott though presents a risk. Is he still that good that we should go back to him?
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:43 pm

I have argued that Trott is too old in the past, but I've slowly come round to accepting that if a player is good enough it doesn't matter if they are 34 or 18. By the standards of modern cricketers, Trott probably has two or three seasons in him at the top.

There are a fair few talented youngsters around at present, but, Trott is someone who has a proven track record of scoring runs for England.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby KipperJohn » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:46 pm

Dr Robert wrote:
KipperJohn wrote:It's not just a fact that people are living longer - sportsmen and women are lasting longer. Look at the likes of Sanga and Mahela who have still performed in their twilight years. Age, whether young or old, should not be a prime consideration in selection - ability, performance, fitness etc should be the prime considerations.


Good point, and I remember how well Gooch batted in his late thirties. Trott though presents a risk. Is he still that good that we should go back to him?


Don't know ginger- are England that good they can afford to leave him out of the mix? Anyway, like so many aspects of life - it's a risk business.

Bell, Hales, Ali, Taylor, Ballance - and that's just choosing the top 3 in ODIs - all present a risk of some sort.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Gingerfinch » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:50 pm

KipperJohn wrote:
Dr Robert wrote:
KipperJohn wrote:It's not just a fact that people are living longer - sportsmen and women are lasting longer. Look at the likes of Sanga and Mahela who have still performed in their twilight years. Age, whether young or old, should not be a prime consideration in selection - ability, performance, fitness etc should be the prime considerations.


Good point, and I remember how well Gooch batted in his late thirties. Trott though presents a risk. Is he still that good that we should go back to him?


Don't know ginger- are England that good they can afford to leave him out of the mix? Anyway, like so many aspects of life - it's a risk business.

Bell, Hales, Ali, Taylor, Ballance - and that's just choosing the top 3 in ODIs - all present a risk of some sort.


Well, if Trott starts the summer by scoring runs in the championship, then he'd be hard to ignore. He'll have to open though. Ballance, Root, and Bell, have performed well of late.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:06 pm

I'm not a betting man, but I'd be tempted to put a few quid on him being back in an England shirt before the end of the ashes series
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:59 am

Early wickets for Kleinveldt.

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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby rich1uk » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:12 am

poor start

no trott to hold the innings together this time
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:55 am

Duck for Trott.

England are in a bit of trouble here.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:02 pm

It's ok. Two Yorkshiremen in now.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:07 pm

Much better now from England.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:15 pm

Still two Yorkshiremen out there.
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Re: England A in South Africa 2015.

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:23 pm

Need two more to get a conversation going about how they had to bat in pitch darkness having to face 200mph bowlers with no helmets or padding...or a bat.
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